Path: typhoon.sonic.net!not-for-mail Newsgroups: alt.magick.tyagi,alt.philosophy.zen,alt.zen,talk.religion.buddhism,alt.buddha.short.fat.guy,alt.satanism Subject: Consistent Self Deduction Followup-To: alt.magick.tyagi,alt.philosophy.zen,alt.zen,talk.religion.buddhism,alt.religion.buddhism,alt.satanism References: From: i@no.self (!) Reply-To: spam@luckymojo.com User-Agent: nn/6.6.0 Lines: 59 Message-ID: <1L06a.68017$Ik.2949757@typhoon.sonic.net> Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2003 09:45:33 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 208.201.242.18 X-Complaints-To: abuse@sonic.net X-Trace: typhoon.sonic.net 1045993533 208.201.242.18 (Sun, 23 Feb 2003 01:45:33 PST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2003 01:45:33 PST Xref: typhoon.sonic.net alt.magick.tyagi:37230 alt.philosophy.zen:111112 alt.zen:339384 talk.religion.buddhism:255757 alt.buddha.short.fat.guy:232348 alt.satanism:223676 "Krag" : | What the fuck does this even mean ... Aeonic greetings to you too !: |# the primordial authority of the Self (a projection)? | | Let me get this straight? You act from a self-centred | place whilst denying that self even exists? laser-beam dot we won't hit when we fire |# ...fantasies of spirit or soul here. | | How do you know they're fantasies? too much changing; enough consistent objective data to deduce | What is the universe contained in? blue bag? | "we only have this life, this body" How have you tested this | hypothesis? reasonable conclusion given the evidence, yes | have you gone into deep meditation in order to see if there is | some kind of permanent self beyond the fleeting phenomenal | existence? unfortunately | ...unless you actually have that realisation your words are | meaningless preposterous! those already accomplished can confirm it | I don't regard anything of the senses as real.... my condolences | ...When all is one..space and time don't exist and neither | does an experiencer of time and space black hole whirling, is it every all one now? | ...u pointed out) it is not really a sacrifice at all.. | because the sacrificed self is a false self to begin with... | it is observable or feelable...so it is not the true | observer or feeler stabbed doll-baby? | you shouldn't hang out with hippies or embrace their philosophy it is my destiny. peace, man