Path: shell.portal.com!shell.portal.com!not-for-mail From: ! Newsgroups: alt.religion.buddhism.tibetan,alt.zen,alt.philosophy.zen,alt.magick.tyagi,alt.religion.buddhism,talk.religion.buddhism Subject: Re: is a bodhisattva possible? Date: 19 Jul 1996 13:59:57 -0700 Organization: Portal Communications (shell) Lines: 26 Sender: tyagi@shell.portal.com Message-ID: <4sot0d$e7h@jobe.shell.portal.com> References: <4qs3mg$s45@news.umbc.edu> <177BB8ACFS86.RJEWETT@nervm.nerdc.ufl.edu> <4rujt1$64d@jobe.shell.portal.com> <31EA0E70.3C5@earthlink.net> <4sfajv$29p@news.interlog.com> <177C7B10CS86.RJEWETT@nervm.nerdc.ufl.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: jobe.shell.portal.com Xref: shell.portal.com alt.religion.buddhism.tibetan:10070 alt.zen:37432 alt.philosophy.zen:8559 alt.magick.tyagi:9524 alt.religion.buddhism:501 talk.religion.buddhism:23432 darylk@async.orgg (Daryl): |...suppose that a being, completely free of a need for preferences and |deluded views (eg. that there is anything to prefer), exists. Now |suppose such a being also discovers, once the blinkers of craving have |been lifted, that compassion is all that remains by way of absolute |preference. Would that being have any choice in her/his next action, |or would a compassionate act be the only option? choice implies 'free will', which, given an being empty of separate self, could not occur. the perception is a delusory fluctuation of hope and desire manifested in parallel to the dharma by virtue of attachment |If there is no choice to be made in this regard, is such an action |altruistic or merely inevitable? neither. it is not altruistic because it is a normal response to the situation from the standpoint of nirvana. it is not inevitable because 'compassion' is ambiguous and includes a variety of possible behaviors |If the latter is the case, then is a bodhisattva a "virtuous" being, |or not? 'virtue' is only meaningful from outside the 'bodhisattva paradigm'. within it, it is simply the dharma within which the flowing happens. this is why the bodhisattva accumulates no 'merit' or 'karma'