Path: shell.portal.com!shell.portal.com!not-for-mail From: ! Newsgroups: talk.religion.buddhism,alt.zen,alt.meditation,alt.religion.buddhism,alt.philosophy.zen Subject: Dark Zen Date: 9 Apr 1996 14:43:45 -0700 Organization: Portal Communications (shell) Lines: 23 Sender: tyagi@shell.portal.com Message-ID: <4kelmh$2pt@jobe.shell.portal.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: jobe.shell.portal.com Xref: shell.portal.com talk.religion.buddhism:19246 alt.zen:28791 alt.meditation:23956 alt.religion.buddhism:258 alt.philosophy.zen:6944 |Why does zen have to be dark to be interesting and useful? Hmmm. strict Zen rules lead to Big Zen Repressed Psychic Contents. this naturally must be dealt with via some means. orthodox zenners probably do it through agitating on koans or being smacked by the stick on the back, but Dark Zenners must be confronted by the Horrible Bodhisattva of Vampirism and face other Mara-inspired challenges before Crossing Over (tm) | hmmmm, maybe it's a black neglig'e sort of concept. |"dark" = sexy? dark= secret/forbidden... whatever. yes, and dark shadows | Know how to sell something to a newager? | lable it SECRET, or Esoteric.... true of people throughout the ages, not just newagers. Buddhists too |that's what's so hot about "dark". |I'm going back to the chocolate now. I'm hot for you Path: shell.portal.com!shell.portal.com!not-for-mail From: ! Newsgroups: talk.religion.buddhism,alt.zen,alt.buddha.short.fat.guy,alt.religion.buddhism Subject: Re: Dark Zen Date: 12 Apr 1996 12:43:09 -0700 Organization: Portal Communications (shell) Lines: 11 Sender: tyagi@shell.portal.com Message-ID: <4kmbod$dne@jobe.shell.portal.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: jobe.shell.portal.com Xref: shell.portal.com talk.religion.buddhism:19449 alt.zen:29157 alt.buddha.short.fat.guy:42087 alt.religion.buddhism:266 |The hidden answers are in the dark and we have flashlights. The closet |door is wide open and plainly seen by all. |Wood anyone like a sharp stick? rap it between the blades please |My lawn is getting humiliated. Time to weed the garden. Mind weeds are |treasures. They recycle to make a nice flower in the air. |Where did the gardener go? he was part of the Spring mulch