Path: typhoon.sonic.net!not-for-mail Newsgroups: alt.philosophy.zen,alt.zen,alt.religion.buddhism,talk.religion.buddhism Subject: Re: Self-Enlightenment? References: From: i@no.self (!) Reply-To: spam@luckymojo.com User-Agent: nn/6.6.0 Lines: 20 Message-ID: Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2002 20:36:27 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 208.201.242.18 X-Complaints-To: abuse@sonic.net X-Trace: typhoon.sonic.net 1041366987 208.201.242.18 (Tue, 31 Dec 2002 12:36:27 PST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2002 12:36:27 PST Xref: typhoon.sonic.net alt.philosophy.zen:109315 alt.zen:332755 talk.religion.buddhism:249680 "Dime-a-Dozen" : | The desires themselves aren't really the problem as much as what is desired. root of desire is what is desired? slay the World? | The idea that mundane things like money, fame or sexual conquest can | satisfy is where the problem starts oh no! always half-empty | because these fleeting impermenent things will never satisfy the basic | original desire which is to re-establish a connection with one's true | inner self. relief was always original desire | Don't try to extinguish the desire, simply turn it inward to | your inner self. no self, no turning. sun through clouds, smiling