Path: ultra.sonic.net!news From: i@no.self (!) Newsgroups: alt.zen,alt.magick.tyagi,alt.philosophy.zen,alt.consciousness.mysticism Subject: Satori (was What is ...) Date: 15 Oct 1999 00:59:33 -0700 Organization: Sonoma Interconnect,Santa Rosa,CA(us),http://www.sonic.net Lines: 77 Message-ID: <7u6mt5$2ur@bolt.sonic.net> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: bolt.sonic.net X-Newsreader: NN version 6.5.1 (NOV) Xref: ultra.sonic.net alt.zen:147097 alt.magick.tyagi:18459 alt.philosophy.zen:26674 alt.consciousness.mysticism:30822 "John Greene" : | Shall we define satori today? | Hairsplitting. | Quoting thousand-year-old chinese literature.... grow a beard on a razor | Why don't you jerk off instead? masturbation rituals can be very healing. recommended by boboroshi | What can one do to get out of one's mind? jump! now!! | What can one do to get higher than one can get via a | quarter of shrooms? the higher they are, the harder they fall. see ya in the Valley | Getting your life straight? values, activities. consistency is valuable; this is sometimes associated with the Four Noble Truths (right livelihood) | Hurting knees? combine half-lotus with full, varying your sitting position | What works? What doesn't? late night, in the dark, sleep overtakes; early morning after walk and a shower, charge challenges circuit | What's just a big bother? human furniture | How about some practical life experiences and advice folks. | Lets talk technique! anything done, hone | Philosophy? Talk about what you've seen? good teacher adjusting postures; repeated circular slow walking in group subtended by chants and sitting. zen is martial sitting | What are you going to talk about? Park Place? Boardwalk? | That little metal dog? That's all game stuff. will Place become a park? will we walk on boards? that metal dog is Eris, pilgrim; She's a piece | So any of you people ever try meditation? several styles. | Ever want to join a monastary? enough to study of its principles, examine daily schedules of historical monastic temples (White Mountain in "Facets of Taoism"), interview nuns and monks regarding their experience, identify as a monk for many years, undertake vows and engage temple duties; join an order of Thelemic knight-monks whose company I have enjoyed; live with initiates and others of like mind in shared housing and ritual observances; but of the hierarchical religious I have little trek and have largely found sex more attractive than these abstemious monks prefer | Think that those monastary cats are a bunch of ingrown fruitloops? heavens no! when they get intransigent, we eat them with milk -- http://www.luckymojo.com/magi/ ; http://www.satanservice.org/ http://www.luckymojo.com/nagasiva.html emailed replies may be posted; cc replies if response desired