Path: typhoon.sonic.net!not-for-mail Newsgroups: alt.magick.tyagi,alt.zen,alt.philosophy.zen Subject: Re: Zazen the Empty Mirror References: <20020427133558.13688.00001138@mb-da.aol.com> From: i@no.self (!) Reply-To: nagasiva@yronwode.com User-Agent: nn/6.6.0 Lines: 16 Message-ID: Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 07:14:58 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 208.201.242.18 X-Complaints-To: abuse@sonic.net X-Trace: typhoon.sonic.net 1022829298 208.201.242.18 (Fri, 31 May 2002 00:14:58 PDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 00:14:58 PDT Xref: typhoon.sonic.net alt.magick.tyagi:32745 alt.zen:304231 alt.philosophy.zen:94455 darshaneneazram@aol.com (Darshaneneazram): | Zazen The Empty Mirror | A question asked of Bodhidharma | Question: What is meditation in Zazen? | Answer: One observes things in the phenomenal world, | Yet always dwells in emptiness. | That is meditation in Zazen. | | One asked the question, | So when one is in the midst of Zazen of what one may be in the midst | Is there a presence of self? is wave-form real?