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50001021 Vom

dl152279546231@aol.com (DL152279546231):
>> Read a book recently that said you should save your sexual energy 
>> because you will need it for meditation. 

what book? what did the author define 'meditation' to include?

>> Also, the precepts mention sex 

if you are talking about Buddhist precepts for monks, then there are
few Buddhists who prescribe sex for awakening of this sort. boboroshi
talks about it, but also recommends a vasectomy as well as suicide.

>> but the book I read doesn't spell out what is considered wrong 
>> sexuality. Opinions?/sources?  

'right' and 'wrong' would depend on the context. from the perspective
of the Zen Buddhist monk, I presume that almost any sex would be
problematic, given the heavy emphasis placed upon avoidance of women
in Zen literature. 

then again, if the source believes that sexual energy assists
zazen and the will applied to insight, then expending sexual energy
might make it more difficult to wake up. probably only a very few
would be able to use sex as a MEANS of meditation as did Boboroshi.

> This was a serious guestion. 

yes, but most Zen Buddhists don't seem to accept sexuality as a 
legitimate aspect of practice. this describes the distance 
which they have come from the Middle Path, which excludes nothing
in particular but everthing in general. I don't know if the 'zen'
of which I am speaking (buji, apparently), such as is instructed
in the Dozen School of the Avidyana, would be looked on as
anything more than ridiculousness or charlatanry. perhaps it is.

> Everyone seems to have an opinion on everything posted here 
> normally perhaps the title of the post sounds like a spam but 
> it isn't perhaps a repost is in order?

probably part of the problem is the forum (alt.zen). I've provided
a good cross-section of newsgroups from which I'm sure you'll get
a more healthy response. enjoy!

nagasiva
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