Path: shell.portal.com!shell.portal.com!not-for-mail From: tyagi@houseofkaos.abyss.com (xiwangmu) Newsgroups: alt.magick,alt.magick.tyagi,alt.magick.order,alt.community.intentional,alt.society.anarchy,alt.revolution,talk.euthanasia Subject: Thelemic (Profess?) Houses in Italy (Was Re: Thelema) Date: 1 May 1996 11:52:07 -0700 Organization: Portal Communications (shell) Lines: 49 Sender: tyagi@shell.portal.com Message-ID: <4m8bsn$s7p@jobe.shell.portal.com> References: <830142080_OASIS_@mbha.demon.co.uk> <4lmbb3$o04@news.cityscape.co.uk> Reply-To: tyagi@houseofkaos.abyss.com (xiwangmu) NNTP-Posting-Host: jobe.shell.portal.com Xref: shell.portal.com alt.magick:72562 alt.magick.tyagi:7901 alt.magick.order:1231 alt.community.intentional:713 alt.society.anarchy:34863 alt.revolution:109 talk.euthanasia:3137 kaliyuga 49960501 fnord@netcom.com (de nada): >the occupied houses in Italy, such communes as Forte Prenestino or Leon >Cavallo in rome and Napoli being the symbolic examples in force of their >size and public profile. Here hundreds of individuals all share acess to >equipment and space, as well as the benefits of each others skills in >constructive cooperation. could you say more about these please? (with earlier returns) historical details? structural similarities to other utopian orgs? >The Key seems to be the lack of a formalized hierarchy, with competence and >ability speaking for itself, as well as an insistence on the individuals >freedom to disagree and still be part of the group. Also, it seems that one >need have a common ideal to work towards, be it pure resistance against the >crudity of capital or the highly physical action of fighting nazis or the >act of Working together, arranging exhibitions and happenings and parties, >not to earn money but to create instances. I agree that common cause is imperative. >The Beauty of Pride gained in honest Work. So it should be possible, and >indeed is being done many places around the world. It is just that those >who do this dont talk too much about it, and are being silenced by every >medium... This is precisely my objective in participating in the Internet, to open such mediums so that such voices may be heard. This is the problem with moderation and constrained subject-categories. We exclude that of which were previously unaware, possibly very valuable information/experience. This is what I take to be the objective of the Hermetic mage, the Masonic rejuvenation of the social culture (currently a fractionated globe) into a composite magical farm. Free love, right now! xiwangmu tyagi@houseofkaos.abyss.com -- Ensure my response - CC public replies to email http://www.hollyfeld.org/~tyagi/magi.html (emailed replies may be posted) http://www.hollyfeld.org/~tyagi/nagasiva.html