Path: typhoon.sonic.net!not-for-mail Newsgroups: alt.magick.tyagi,alt.satanism,alt.magick,talk.religion.misc,talk.religion.newage,alt.religion.wicca Subject: Satanic Pact Benefits References: <3E7A9783.ACEC9395@luckymojo.com> <27b9180b.0303210740.45e0004f@posting.google.com> <6ZKea.51$JX2.1149@typhoon.sonic.net> From: lorax666 Reply-To: spam@luckymojo.com User-Agent: nn/6.6.0 Lines: 93 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2003 02:35:29 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 208.201.242.18 X-Complaints-To: abuse@sonic.net X-Trace: typhoon.sonic.net 1048732529 208.201.242.18 (Wed, 26 Mar 2003 18:35:29 PST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2003 18:35:29 PST Xref: typhoon.sonic.net alt.magick.tyagi:39547 alt.satanism:225890 alt.magick:341746 talk.religion.misc:395866 talk.religion.newage:160671 alt.religion.wicca:673218 50030326 VII om peace lorax666 of Anne Rice: >>...I've read some of her books, including >>some of her rather wooden BDSM fairy tale material (Sleeping >>Beauty continuations). I liked the books "Interview With a >>Vampire" and "Vampire Lestat" and the movie of the first.... Caliban: >You didn't like Queen of the Damned with Stuart Townsend? >I actually liked that much better than Interview. Stuart was >a far better Lestat, and Vincent Perez was perfect as Marius. I never saw it. thanks for the review. outside a better appreciation of your taste in films it is somewhat vague. >Have you ever read Dan Simmons? He's another favorite of mine. his "Songs of Kali" was a brief inspiration, but I don't recall very many other books of his I've been aware of or read. anything in particular? he wasn't the one that did the Ninja books, was he? > ...What, exactly, did you receive from Satan in exchange for > your "blood oath"? dunno who you're quoting there. it was a blood pact, an alliance, between sovereign powers with overlapping principalities, for mutual support against common adversaries in exchange for the satiation of my every desire. as such, the exact particulars of contribution from Satan are of mixed category (internals as well as externals) and proportionate to my activities serving Satan, as I can assess them after the fact. the best way I can describe the result of my alliance, what I associate with the blood pact, is to make reference to what has happened to me and the variation in my environs since the time of my pact (my overall conditions have *completely* changed). from a relatively simple urban existence in which I was acting largely alone and from a position of dissonance in personal and financial realms (at odds in some ways with my lovers at the time and inversely-aligned with respect to social schedules and contextual values), surrounded by a meager, mass-manufac- tured suburban sprawl with stucco ceilings and conventional, lower-middle-class repetitiveness and blandness (intentionally and willingly-engaged for the purpose of ascetic discipline, minimizing for resource-conservation and other values such as social experimentation in anarchistic, shared households), I've shifted to a less mobile, more romantically-fulfilling life enriched in sensual and intellectual enjoyments, resonantly- aligned to my partner and wife whose values and availability are conducive to coordinated and continued mutual exploration, as well as joint promotion and support of our personal projects. integration of domestic and economic factors enables an expanse of intimacy and mystical interfusion which the bifurcation of previous arrangements strained considerably. after a complete reorientation to new surrounds (an obvious shift that occurred more than 2 years after my pact, once I'd returned to service to nonprofit organizations aligned to Satanic virtue -- that particularly having been my support for offices dedicated to the personal needs and rights of prisoners of my society), I would affirm that satiation of desire has been a major result of the variety of changes I made subsequent to the blood pact. a dissolution of the lifestyle I'd pretty well mapped out in the city of my birth was to great extent matched with my own efforts to resume ordinary alignment to conventional society and work toward right livelihood (rather than continue an isolating and mostly solitary adherence to martial posts in a flexible and successful security employment). in other words, stable reorientation led to a transcendental epiphany and a complete relocation. as I don't regard Satan as entirely separate from myself, it would be imprudent to suggest that all of the credit for the outcome to date is due to either Satan or to me. what I have watched for, instead, was the behaviour of the wild, both interior and external, and how it might align with or seriously oppose my activities. my impression, after having observed overall composure of my actions and their placement, is that conditions in my immediate environment subsequent to the blood pact have been decidedly conducive to the support of internal freedom with respect to desire (i.e. its satiation). I don't expect those who dwell far from my circumstance to be able to verify this condition-change over time, since the signing of said pact, but since you asked for a report, I've given here what I can in reflection of what I've obtained. blessed be! lorax666 Path: typhoon.sonic.net!not-for-mail Newsgroups: alt.magick.tyagi,alt.satanism,alt.magick,talk.religion.misc,talk.religion.newage,alt.religion.wicca Followup-To: alt.magick.tyagi,alt.religion.wicca Subject: Re: Satanic Pact Benefits References: <3E7A9783.ACEC9395@luckymojo.com> <27b9180b.0303210740.45e0004f@posting.google.com> <6ZKea.51$JX2.1149@typhoon.sonic.net> From: lorax666 Reply-To: spam@luckymojo.com User-Agent: nn/6.6.0 Lines: 161 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2003 19:01:36 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 208.201.242.18 X-Complaints-To: abuse@sonic.net X-Trace: typhoon.sonic.net 1048791696 208.201.242.18 (Thu, 27 Mar 2003 11:01:36 PST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2003 11:01:36 PST Xref: typhoon.sonic.net alt.magick.tyagi:39570 alt.satanism:225939 alt.magick:341803 talk.religion.misc:395893 talk.religion.newage:160683 alt.religion.wicca:673555 50030327 VII om peace Caliban: >>>Have you ever read Dan Simmons? He's another favorite of mine. lorax666: >>his "Songs of Kali" was a brief inspiration Caliban: >Picked that one up due to your appreciation of Kali? It's why I read >it. She is a particular favorite of mine. yes indeedy!!!! I even quoted portions of it to alt.fan.kali.astarte.inanna >>, but I don't recall >>very many other books of his I've been aware of or read. anything >>in particular? he wasn't the one that did the Ninja books, was he? >No, that was Eric Van Lustbader.... thanks. I enjoyed his "White Ninja" more than the followup. >Not sure what specific work you're alluding to here, but it is >typically Scorpionic, by the way. thanks. I've been told I'm a typical Scorpio sun Sag rising. >>as I don't regard Satan as entirely separate from myself, >>it would be imprudent to suggest that all of the credit for >>the outcome to date is due to either Satan or to me. what I >>have watched for, instead, was the behaviour of the wild, >"behavior of the wild". Now that's a phrase that I like (Shakespeare's >Caliban was also a Wild Man). Do you associate the "wild man" with >Satan? what little I know of him, yes. the European Devil is in part related to the Wild Man of the Woods from what I can tell, complete with continuing Wild Man celebrations surrounding Krampus. the wild is of Satan whether human or non-human, as I understand it. that's in part why I couldn't confirm a complete separation (inasmuch as there may be vestiges of me which are in some way wild). >What you have described above can be obtained in any number of ways agreed. >and none of it seems exclusive to a blood pact with Satan. typically far greater and more fantastic things are associated with Satanic Pacts, including great power, knowledge, prognostic ability, force at arms, etc. Wild Nature is ascribed all manner of fabulous secret and potentially scales-tipping opportune power, but I think these are by and large projections and do not obtain. one of the aspects about my pact I liked the most was that it was as I understood it simultaneously worldly and mystical, rooted in an ecological mindset and extending toward the transcendental, trodding, as it were, a Middle Path. >A lot of people who practice magick sans any work with deities, >can claim similar accomplishments through diligent magickal practice. usually the claim is more spiritual, internal, and oriented to power with respect to magical energy or formal rite repertoire. >Even removing all occult work, oaths, etc., what you've described has >also occurred among born-agains and atheists. I'd concur. one might also describe it as conversion, or repentance. :> except that my base-level philosophical outlook didn't really shift. >> blessed be! > > I've always wondered why you use such a trite sign-off? I liked > Blessed Beast so much better. when I began signing off "blessed beast!" it was in part as a contribution to forums in which it would be understood as a Thelemic departure (because this was the conclusion of so many of Hymenaeus Alpha's "Magickal Links" [sic]), and in part an intent to link up with wild-supportive principles which take the term out of Christian-demon contexts (trans-Revelations). I began using "blessed be!" when recently 'invading' the alt.religion.wicca newsgroup, in which I knew its current denizens cleaved to a darker and rougher deMEANor(pun intended!), and my sparring with y'all warranted adherence to a fluffy and whispy Newage standard! blessed be! lorax666 of the Evul Wikkunz, Majestic Priest of Kaos Kuvin III' ================================================================ http://dmoz.org/Bookmarks/b/boboroshi ---------------------------------------------------------------- fluff bunny, fluff bunny, Paw Paw Paw! ======================================= "Well I drove down to Big D.C. And I walked into Room 1003 And there they were The Big Boys. And they were talking Big B Little O Little M Silent B They were saying: Let's teach those robots how to play hardball. Let's teach those little fellas a little gratitude. Hey! What's that big noise from the sky? Sounds like thunder Nope. Sounds like the Fourth of July -- Nope...Wrong again. You know? It's just those angels walking They're clomping around again Wearing those big clumsy shoes We got for them. Well deep In the heart Of darkest America Home of the Brave Well HA HA HA You've already paid For this Listen to my heart Beat." ====================================== "Sharkey's Night", on 'Home of The Brave', 1982 (LIVE!!! SEE THE VIDEO!!!) by Laurie Anderson @Difficult Music BMI (c) 1986 Warner Brothers Records from: Drugaya muzyka -- Laurie ANDERSON - lyrics http://altmusic.boom.ru/anderson_lyrics.html ====================================== did we already pay for this? :> were the angels, WB, or those shoes responsible? I'll bet it had something to do with copyrights. (c) 2003 0301 vii nagasiva yronwode. all rights reserved. it's all mine, baybee. ;> no! they're settling out of court! maybe next time!