Path: shell.portal.com!usenet From: tyagi@houseofkaos.abyss.com (mordred) Newsgroups: alt.satanism,alt.magick.tyagi Subject: Satanism and Herd Elitism Date: 21 Dec 1994 05:50:11 GMT Organization: Portal Communications (shell) Lines: 153 Message-ID: <3d8fmj$ba6@news1.shell> Reply-To: tyagi@houseofkaos.abyss.com (mordred) NNTP-Posting-Host: jobe.shell.portal.com Summary: This is a review of an article from 'The Black Flame' by J. Deboo. Keywords: Satanism, Conformity, Herd, Elitism, CoS, Deboo Xref: shell.portal.com alt.satanism:12911 alt.magick.tyagi:1647 Kali Yuga 49941220 I have a few things to say about 'organized Satanists' while taking the opportunity to review a very nice article by Jeffrey Deboo in 'The Black Flame' 4:3/4. The article is entitled 'Herd Elitist Ideologies, A Field Guide', to be found on page 41, and I shall omit the bulk of it to emphasize a few very important points. It seems ludicrous and somewhat self-contradictory to me that this article appears within 'The Black Flame', given the typical elitism and the obvious bias of its overall content toward the Church of Satan. In this way it is a clear note amidst a somewhat cacophonous blast, though some of this noise was interesting. :> And yet even the author fails to completely exemplify the apparent point of his article, placing seemingly self-deprecatory references to what I can only call 'slams on membership categories'. Let me quote for you his main thesis, which I think is quite sound and I support it strongly: "What distinguishes a herd-elitist ideology from a Satanic one is its criterion of superiority: rather than judging each individual independently as superior or inferior on the basis of that individual's unique qualities, the herd-elitist assigns superior or inferior status to people based on their *membership in a category*." Now this assertion may imply a self-deprecation (something similar to which I attempted to squirm my way out of when Mr. Scratch recently accused me of dividing people into two groups -- those who divide people up into two kinds of people and those who don't), in that the implication is that 'Satanists are better than herd-elitists', and by generating and using this theory about herd-elitist ideology I am in fact engaging in a type of herd-elitism myself. Bypassing this logical, semantical problem (since I can just state that the principle will apply to all OTHER circumstances than that of my primary), I see this as a very important criteria to separate true Satanists from pseudo-Satanists. In fact, I'm rather fond of the opinion that in the SAME way that there are no 'chaotic organizations', there are also no 'satanic organizations'. Perhaps 'Chaos (Magick)', Thelema and Satanism share a very important quality in this regard. Later in the article Mr. Deboo separates himself (and me, the 'real Satanist' reader) from racists. I like what he has to say here, but what struck me as most important was his language. Towards the end of his anti-racist rant, he wrote: "the assumption, presumably, is that *we individualists* will fall for [the race-supremacist] identity just because it happens to be socially unacceptable." My emphasis. I suppose it is fairly commonly assumed that Satanism is very close to or identical with Individualism. Rand, Nietzsche, Crowley -- some of the more individualistic writers -- are associated with Satanism as well as are their philosophical movements (e.g. Objectivism, Existentialism, Thelema, respectively). Yet seldom do people take it one step further and look into the implications that this may have with respect to ORGANIZATIONS. I've been looking at organizations for a while now, sometimes inside them, sometimes from the outside, sometimes on the edges. I've come up with a few postulates and one of them is that organizations, orders, groups of people, inherently function as a herd. It is a natural response to a density of population, and this influences physical, emotional and intellectual realms of conformity. If this is true, and if Individualism is a very important aspect of Satanism (or Thelema for that matter), then 'Satanic group' is an oxymoron. By its very nature it runs directly counter to Individualism. Thus if I try to separate out 'real Satanists' from 'pseudo-Satanists', then the first thing I'll look for is whether or not they are officially part of a group, the second is how involved they may be in that organization and who is calling the shots within it. Mr. Deboo has a LOT to say about this issue when he begins to describe CULTISM: "Members gather together to reassure one another of their superiority and to sneer at those who are not members of the Cult. The strongest disdain is aimed not at the social mainstream but at those who, instead of belonging to the Cult, belong to some rival cult which in fact is hardly different." I can't imagine a more accurate description of the insipid feuding between the members of CoS and ToS, and it describes perfectly to me the type of herd-mentality which I see in this newsgroup half the time, squabbling about what past Nth Degree Member did what to whose lover during what Aeon. 'No, let me correct you.' 'No, you are merely biased.' 'No, you just don't understand.' 'No, you are just trying to spew your propaganda.' 'No, it is YOU who are trying to spew the propaganda, ours is based upon social documentation.' Etc. Two groups of Satanic Cultists duking it out. If this was all that Mr. Deboo had to say on the matter I would be very pleased, but he goes ON, and most adroitly! "Most pseudo-Satanic groups fall into this category; each a small, insular knot of people with little in the way of a philosophical stance except repeated assertions that they are the Real Thing and that all the other similar groups are phonies." Sure he is being extreme here, perhaps to cover his ass and maybe to get his article accepted by a publication edited by CoS cronies. But I think that his point remains in its germane form: pseudo-Satanists are the ones who portray themselves as the Real Thing and fight with other Satanists about what makes a Satanist and what constitutes disqualification. As far as I'm concerned, the only opinion that is important is that of the *individual*, me, and I can make up my mind any damn way I please. Anything more than this is CULTISM, which it seems organizations may naturally inspire. Skipping the discussion of another potentially self-deprecatory statement ("...herd-elitist ideologies have a natural appeal to inferior people."), I'd like to focus on Mr. Deboo's closing paragraph: "The Satanist identifies fellow members of the elite by their individual qualities and achievements -- not by their race, nationality, group affiliation, descent, or any other categorical criterion. There is no form of 'hypocritical self-deceit' more insidious than thinking oneself Satanic merely because one has joined a small herd which is out of favor with the big one." What marvellous words. I would emphasize these words and posit further the notion that group affiliation indicates a COMPROMISING aspect to an individual's Satanism. I don't mean to suggest that anyone within a group is ipso facto a pseudo-Satanist, only that they'd be engaging a very dangerous type of activity (joining a potential herd), and should therefore be dealt a more healthy dose of skepticism. Just as 'lone Christians' are seen with some trepidation by those who frequent the Masses, so also should those from 'Satanic groups' be scrutinized carefully as to the calibre of their awareness, individuality, and self-respect. Are they following right in step with group doctrines and philosophies? Do they wear all the appropriate accoutrements of the 'faith'? Have they submitted themselves to the lowest common denominator of the group for some reason? Do they perpetually talk up the founder and/or central figure or deity of the group? If so, beware. I started off this article with a slam on 'The Black Flame' and its contents. Let me qualify my criticism by saying that I enjoyed a number of the articles within it and felt very inspired by its content. However, my job as a Satanist is to be on my toes with respect to groups, whether or not they are given some sort of name (but especially those which come with identifying labels). I look critically at the weaknesses and stengths of any organization and the people within it. In fact, I contend that there is only one kind of true Satanist and that is the Lone Satanist. Sure, I might be affiliated with a group or two, but ultimately I have my own ideas about things, am not all that concerned with whether I am 'in sync' with others who use similar terminology, and tend to be VERY critical of organizations, *especially* any with which I may associate. That's right, a REAL Satanist organization will be composed of people who level as much criticism toward their *own* membership and organizational structure as they would about anyone else's. It is the nature of the Individualist Beast that she must keep to this practice diligently else become part of one more Cult, slowly corrupted by the pseudo-Satanic herd. nagasiva, tyagi@houseofkaos.abyss.com (The Order of K@s Under Satan)