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Subject: Entropy and Satanism (Was Re: SINISTER ORDER OF FENRIR: ...)
Date: 9 Apr 1996 13:58:45 -0700
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jasonp@argon.GAS.UUG.Arizona.EDU (JPosey):
|Some Masons certainly did have Satanic leanings, but I decided to take 
|the safer track here and recognize that, by and large, they aren't 
|Satanists. He certainly didn't have anything to say about the Yezidis, 
|though, and they predate any known European manifestation of genuine 
|Satanism by several centuries.

Satanism by the name or Satanism by some criteria of which I am yet
unaware that you use in this assessment?


[unknown poster]
|>|The purpose of a Satanic organization ....

Organizations surrounding the theme of Satanism are inevitably
farms wherein new meme-generating cultists may be fed high-density
hogwash and futz up their noggins in arrogant infighting and rivalries

this has been going on for centuries and has recently been labelled
'Satanism' and continued


|>|CORRECT PURPOSE OF A SATANIC ORGANIZATION SHOULD BE - TO WORK TOWARDS 
|>|MAKING THE ENTROPY WHICH NATURALLY OCCURS WORK *FOR* US!

There is only one correct purpose of a Satanic organization, and that
should be the support of individual liberty and rebellion against
coercive authority to which all organizations lead, no exceptions.

Satanists should be educated regarding the repressed material in their
culture's media, academia and in their own expeience.  Weeding out the
hooks of enslavement, the student of Satanism is better able to become
hir own master.


|>|A single individual, acting alone, simply CANNOT perform the same level 
|>|of work as a group working together. 

A common presumption of those who would persuade solitaries to their
'worthy cause'.  beware.  indications of arationalism supporting works
of questionable value lurk herein.


[JPosey again]
|This is where I tend to disagree with many Satanists. 

Let's see.


|Although Satanism should certainly be used on an individual basis, 
|this should not be the end-all and be-all of the concept. ...

It is unclear from these fragments and your language toward what you
were suggesting Satanism might be used.  You go on to associate this
with the LABEL of Satanism.  I agree that few people in social power
today identify as 'Satanist'.  However, you go too far when you say that 

|there are no Satanists in the top ranks of government, the military, 
|or the corporate world. 

in that if we define Satanism not to necessarily include a worship of
Satan or a self-identification with Satanism it is easy to ascribe all
sorts of people the 'honor' of the qualification


|Given the make-up of the leadership circles of the major Satanist orgs., 

Anybody ever done a breakdown?

CoSatanists
ALaVey - High Priest
FBarton- High Priestess?

Order of Nonagons
who???


Tossites
MAquino - High Priest
LAquino - High Priestess?

Order of Parallelograms
KFilan?
SFlowers? 


|...while Satanism incorporates a success-oriented philosophy, 

it has not always.  this is a LaVeyan carnival maneuver.  with the break
in the ranks of the CoSatanist Orthodoxy toward factionalism, some means 
of either pressing toward greater fracture or backing off to a more
centralized administration was Mr. LaVey's apparent working hypothesis.

in order to assist this fracture he and his cronies fostered a NEW
kind of success-oriented philosophy which Tossites have since branded
'selling out the priesthood' and vacated in a (small?) body.  the
particulars are not as important to me here as that the materialism-
centeredness appears to have been an added emphasis by LaVey placed upon
things of the *material* world as compared to the intellectual or 
'spiritual'.  it is also possible that it was partially or completely
motivated by religious jealousy, as is sometimes claimed by the disgrunted

nagasiva/TOKUS
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