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Subject: Invoking Rather Than Worshipping Satan
Date: 23 Aug 1997 11:45:14 -0700
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49970812 aa2 Hail Satan!

re what Satanists may claim to worship:
Satanists make all manner of claims.  many do not worship anything.
for some of us our worship is separate from our Satanism.  for some
of us it is related but not directly.  for example, I worship Kali,
who is to me the power (sakti) of Satan.


not all Satanists engage ritual.  Satanism is different for different
Satanists.  only the really nasty orgSatanists all do the same things.
as with numerous individuals I image the perception of where the power
comes from in ritual varies considerably.  given the predominant and
popular atheistic slant of Satanists the typical is probably 
self-derived.


the Satan I know is neither always powerful nor very communicative 
(understandably), though SHe is sentient in many ways known and 
unknown to me.  SHe is wild nature and therefore incorporates or employs 
the forces allayed in Hir works.


re invoking Satan:
I ...invoke demons occasionally and Satan in particular
by Hir names when I feel the desire/need.  what does the invocation feel
like to you?  how does it appear to another?  I tend to prefer to
initiate the invocation while in the shower or out in the open air, at
times in response to the white light obsessions of those around me.


re the manifold multiplicity of Satanic form:
beautiful.  Satan seems more associated with the Many rather than the
One, and as individualism is heavily emphasized, it is no surprise that
we should find innumerable possibilities as you have described as regards
form.  I have drawn a revised Levi Baphomet which I set within a northern
casement, along with many other demons and alchemical symbols of the Work.


the EAFWS elemental attribution strikes me as supremely Christian
in its attempt to separate out 'spirit' as a different 'element'
in comparison to the material/metaphorical ancients.  as I under-
stand it, 'spirit' is the interior experience of sentience which
certain composites of EAFW enjoy (subjectivity).  it is no more
another 'element' than is indulgence a sin.


re the power in ritual invocations:
do you identify a source for that power/energy?  for some odd reason
my dedication to Kali has been an important siva-sakti pairing with
Satan in a framework normally reserved for Siva in traditional Hindu
metaphysics.  there are some distinct similarities of god and, at
times, dedicants.  I find it intriguing also to compare them to the 
Anima and Shadow, respectively, of Jungian psychology.


blessed beast!
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