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Subject: Satanic Mythology and Gnosticism
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vaulk3339 wrote:
> ...the subject of Satanic Mythology.

being a modern religious movement, Satanism was inspired in
part by literary sources attempting to impress the human
imagination with horror by contrasting the authors'
primarily Christian, if not Roman Catholic, background with
fictional imagery of nefarious infernal plots to overthrow
the world and anti-Christian elements as undercurrents to
the capital-C Church. its literary precedents include such
famous authors as Michelet, Taxil, Huysmans, Wheatley, Shaw,
Twain, Milton, Dante, and Byron. its proponents are of
variable actual relation to the field of religion, sometimes
trying to use scare-tactics, or to promote religio-political
positions inclusive of dissent and of support of traditional
established religious structures (through fear-mongering).

from this we may surmise that what comes to be included in
Satanism today can vary perhaps more tremendously than most
other religions where beliefs and practice are concerned,
inclusive of stories about supernatural beings and
cosmogenesis ('mythology').

typically those who move beyond anti-Christian ideas either
accept materialistic or "heretical" alternatives, as a
result of their inability to live with philosophic
uncertainty, or they reject all mythos and mysticism as
"transparently infantile and delusional", mocking them,
often from a position of ignorance. for this reason it is
somewhat difficult to find a good overview of truly Satanist
concepts of Satan or the principles that make up the cosmos.
I've tried to collect such material at:

http://www.satanservice.org/smackers.html

> Do you hold the gnostic view that all the
> ancient gods were watchers, fallen angels
> or demons?

you appear to be fusing several concepts here which were
promoted by writers through the centuries inclusive of the
apocryphal books attributed to Enoch and Noah (the origins
of 'fallen angel' motifs it seems), and the various popular
writers who contributed to turning the Greek 'daemon' into
the Christian 'demon' such as Milton and his dualistic
cohorts (compare the more rebellious Romantic poets).

> What is a Demiurge?

cf. authors of repute on the subject of Gnosticism such as
Elaine Pagels ("The Gnostic Gospels" goes into the nature of
the 'demiourgos' somewhat, if memory serves). basically
we're talking about a constructor of limited portions of the
cosmos whose relation to the rest of the 'heavenly court'
('elohim' in Jewish scripture) or the 'other archons'
(world-constructors) was not as their overseer or supreme
chief. a demiurge is a kind of lording bully who, having
placed (especially) human beings in circumstance, expects to
be worshipped as more than merely someone to set things into
motion (i.e. the First Cause, the Ultimate Good, the
Omnipotent Archon, etc.). those who use this term tend to
*oppose* the demiurge, sometimes taking sides with other
archons (as did many Gnostics who revered 'Sophia' or even
'Christ' as a saviour *from* the demiurge), sometimes
satisfied with their independence (as it may be said of many
Satanists).

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