Path: typhoon.sonic.net!not-for-mail Newsgroups: alt.magick,alt.pagan,alt.christnet,talk.religion.misc,alt.satanism,alt.magick.tyagi Subject: Pagan Contention with Jews and Christians (was Pagan Kabbalah) Followup-To: alt.magick.tyagi,alt.pagan,alt.christnet,talk.religion.misc References: <3c0e5a09.2461316@trialnews.peoplepc.com> <3C0E7927.349AA40@earthlink.net> <3c0eea42.39388058@trialnews.peoplepc.com> <3C100C74.22D5@luckymojo.com> <3c1122eb.32078543@trialnews.peoplepc.com> From: boboroshi@satanservice.org (SOC of the CoE) Reply-To: boboroshi@satanservice.org User-Agent: nn/6.6.0 Lines: 54 Message-ID: Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 07:49:02 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 208.201.242.18 X-Complaints-To: abuse@sonic.net X-Trace: typhoon.sonic.net 1008056942 208.201.242.18 (Mon, 10 Dec 2001 23:49:02 PST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2001 23:49:02 PST Xref: typhoon.sonic.net alt.magick:279947 alt.pagan:293712 alt.christnet:632648 talk.religion.misc:368156 alt.satanism:194279 alt.magick.tyagi:30206 50011210 VI! om DON'T WAIT, TRANSLATE INTO YOUR LIGHT-BODY NOW! sri catyananda (cat@luckymojo.com): >> ... please note, you are addressing a roomful of people here in >> alt.magick who (with a few exceptions, such as the Asians among us) >> come from European and European-American subcultures which "through >> the ages" have been primarily Jewish and Christian. >> >> So why tell these people -- including the many Jews here -- that you >> will "liberate" them from their "parochial" cultural baggage and >> "rectify" the Jewish Kabbalah into something pagan? in order to contend with them, obviously. similar religious sects often contend against one another for authority and attention in this way. Gnomedplume@aol.com (Gnome d Plume): > I am not telling them that. This news group also serves an equally large > number of Pagans, and people who have been raised in a Judeo-Christian > ethos but are looking for something beyond the Jesus and Jehovah sticks > they were beaten with when they were kids. my observation is that "Pagans" are mostly comprised of such people, that it is a reactionary sect of the Judeochristian religious complex centered on opposition to Christianity as an alternative and superior, if not equal, model. the natural outgrowth of this social movement is Satanism, which enshrines the ideals of Luther and Mark Twain simultaneously, (sprinkled liberally with sprigs of Voltaire). > Nagasiva, for instance. Why is he a satanist? my vow of humility keeps me from expressing the most extreme reason, but there comes a time when the traveller must abide a principle of universal love, minister to the damned, and oppose the People. "Ye are against the People, O My Chosen!" let me reassure you, I am not revolting against my upbringing, as are many Neopagans such as you speak, but I am instead AFFIRMING IT. that is, I was raised according to Satanist values, my "ethos" was and still is Satanism. I have only identified it and refined it to some perfection. I have not betrayed any family religious standards (because we never had any) or trespassed into some forbidden religious cult (because I am my own master and no cult was forbidden me, the advice given being to keep my wits about me and not get taken by charlatans). the balance for another post. NIRVANA IS JUST A SUICIDE AWAY. boboroshi SOD of the CoE boboroshi@satanservice.org