From sentto-1040416-2520-1036528496-heypresto=luckymojo.com@returns.groups.yahoo.com Tue Nov 5 12:36:34 2002 Return-Path: sentto-1040416-2520-1036528496-heypresto=luckymojo.com@returns.groups.yahoo.com Received: from server19.option.net (server19.option.net [206.246.226.71]) by ultra.sonic.net (8.11.6/8.8.5) with ESMTP id gA5KaYT13895 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 12:36:34 -0800 Received: from n37.grp.scd.yahoo.com (n37.grp.scd.yahoo.com [66.218.66.105]) by server19.option.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id PAA55427 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 15:36:33 -0500 (EST) X-eGroups-Return: sentto-1040416-2520-1036528496-heypresto=luckymojo.com@returns.groups.yahoo.com Received: from [66.218.67.192] by n37.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Nov 2002 20:34:56 -0000 X-Sender: cat@luckymojo.com X-Apparently-To: sacredlandscapelist@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_3_0); 5 Nov 2002 20:34:55 -0000 Received: (qmail 23598 invoked from network); 5 Nov 2002 20:34:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m10.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 5 Nov 2002 20:34:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO b.smtp-out.sonic.net) (208.201.224.39) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 5 Nov 2002 20:34:49 -0000 Received: (qmail 29359 invoked from network); 5 Nov 2002 20:34:48 -0000 Received: from tempest.sonic.net (208.201.224.25) by b.smtp-out.sonic.net with SMTP; 5 Nov 2002 20:34:48 -0000 Received: from 192.168.0.69 ([209.204.150.234]) by tempest.sonic.net (8.11.6/8.8.5) with SMTP id gA5KYk903027 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 12:34:46 -0800 X-envelope-info: Message-ID: <3DC82D4D.12B2@luckymojo.com> Organization: Lucky Mojo Curio Co. X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01-C-MACOS8 (Macintosh; I; PPC) To: sacredlandscapelist@yahoogroups.com References: <1036501434.273.95875.m12@yahoogroups.com> From: catherine yronwode X-Yahoo-Profile: catherineyronwode MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list sacredlandscapelist@yahoogroups.com; contact sacredlandscapelist-owner@yahoogroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list sacredlandscapelist@yahoogroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2002 12:47:49 -0800 Subject: [sl] Grottoes (was: Making Sacredness in SL Topics (was What makes...) Reply-To: sacredlandscapelist@yahoogroups.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-3.0 required=5.0 tests=AWL,FROM_EGROUPS,GROUPS_YAHOO_1,NOSPAM_INC, QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES,SPAM_PHRASE_00_01, TO_BE_REMOVED_REPLY version=2.43 X-Spam-Level: Status: RO From: Seyfert-1 [snip] > # garden follies, grottoes, and other forms of > # symbolic landscaping; > > I'm not aware of how these may create sacred space, though > 'grotto' is the name of a subgrouping (compare 'sinod' 'camp', > or 'church') amongst some Taoists and some Satanists. The word grotto has nothing to do with Taoists or Satanists except insofar as they have adapted an "exotic" word from another culture. Grotto is an ancient Italian/Sicilian/Latin/Etruscan -- whatever -- word that means a natural sea-cave of a kind that is common around the Mediterranean and along the Pacific Coast. Grottos often have highly unusual tidally-activated landscape features -- blow-holes, internally fine sand, limited accessibility due to tidal fluctuations, internal fresh-water springs, natural bridges -- that set them apart from the common bluffy shoreline. I know you know what i mean, siva -- they are all around us. Anyway, in the ancient Medierranean world, the better grottoes were considered to be the sacred homes of spirtual entities such as water-goddesses, Neptune, and the like. Those grottoes that featured fresh water springs or a daily period of isolation due to tidal cut-offs got high marks for sacrality. Reverence for grottoes persisted in Italy long after the accession of Christianity. You've seen those tear-drop shaped blue glass bottles of water from Italy they sell at upscale markets around here -- those are from an ancient spring-in-a-grotto that was revered by the Romans as the home of a water-spirit and later was re-consecrated to the Virgin Mary. In the wake of the Italian Renaissance, when wealthy tourists from central and Northwestern Europe took to travelling through the Italian countryside in search of ruins and beauty, there was a renewed interest in the sacrality of grottoes. But unlike portable trove such as sculpture, paintings, jewelry, and cloth, the Norhterners could not take those wonderful grottoes home with them to land-locked Germany or France. So they hired architects to build faux-grottoes on their estates. If the landscape favoured it, these inland garden grottoes were carved out of a convenient bluff or cliff, but in many instances where they were erected on pastoral land, they took the form of a mound with a hollow center and one open side. Thus the word "grotto" spread to include both shallow land-caves wth water features and also completely artificial grottoes. In central Europe there was a tendency to retain the Italiante or classical notion of the seaside sacred grotto by using the garden grotto as a place in which to erect sculptures of Neptune or Poseidon and/or mermaids, carved of marble in a neo-classical or baroque style. A water feature was usually installed as well, often a simple fountain, but sometimes an elaborate hydraulic system including pools and falling water. Some of the baroque grottoes had an over-the-top theme-park aspect to them, especially when the designers went so far as to import tons of Italian sea-shells and ocean rocks to glue to them. In the United States, which was largely colonized after the fad for garden grottoes in Europe had passed, the grotto did not became a common feature of landscaping, either a sacred one or an expression of wealth-driven faux-sacrality -- until the Virgin Mary appeared to a girl named Bernadette. The site of this apparition was a shallow cave-niche with a fresh-water spring located in Lourdes, France, and it was immediately labelled a "grotto" by local ecclesiastical authorities. As with the earlier Italian fresh-water sea-grottoes that had become associated with Mary over the centuries, the waters of Lourdes were thought to be healing. A huge industry in religious tourism thus sprang up in Lourdes, to accodate vistors to the "grotto." In the late 19th centuy a Catholic priest from Wisconsin travelled to Lourdes and was impressed with the grotto there. On his return home he realized that a relatively new building material, bagged concrete, was ideal for the purpose of recreating the Lourdes grotto in the upper Midwest for people who could not make the trek there themselves. Thus he created the famed (and justly so!) Dickeyville Grotto in Dickeyvile, Wisconsin. Now, the Dickeyville Grotto is both a sacred site (dedicated to the Virgin Mary as portrayed at Lourdes) and it is a supreme garden folly. It was erected during a time of technological progress, which the priest welcomed wholeheartedly. In short order there was not just one grotto on the site, but half a dozen grottoes and arches connected with pathways beset with benches, fountains, flower-beds, and other features built of concrete, embedded in which were millions of seashells and special pebbles from all around the world, contributed by enthusiastic visitors. Pageants were held there, and floral parades. And then the priest added strings of colourful light hulbs! And Amercian flags and patriotic slogans! Words like "Liberty" and "Freedom" were spelled out in seashells and light bulbs and ... well, you get the picture. The Dickeyville Grotto is the model upon which the most extravagant front-yard Christmas displays in America were based -- but it is there all year. It became a tourist destination for farmers and small-town folks who could not go to Lourdes. Healings took place. Special bus and train schedules were arranged. And among the multitudes who saw the grotto, a few guys stood quietly in the throng and scratched their heads and said, "Concrete, eh? Why, they sell that down at the feed-store. All a fella'd need to is to get some rebar and a few old planks to knock together some wooden forms. I'll bet i could do that." And thus was born what landscape historians now call the Concrete Grotto Envirnonment Movement of the Upper Midwest -- which includes rebar-and-concrete morality-theaters like The Garden of Eden in Lucas, Kansas, and others, large and small. Not all of the early 20th century Midwestern Concrete Grotto Envirnonments take the literal form of seaside grottos or hearken back to classical pagan or neo-classical faux-pagan imagery. Not all of them are even religious in tone -- one famous example, for instance, consists in part of a very, very large concrete scale model of the S. S. Bremen built on the front lawn area of a family farm by immigrants who wanted to memorialize the ship that brought them to America. (This site also features a humble roadside grotto complete with a spring of running water, for the comfort of travellers. Its unusual location, at the very edge of the property, was explained in later years by the daughter of the builders, who said, "We didn't have a spring up by the house; it was down at the road, so that's where we built it." ) As you pointed out, Anton LaVey did call his Satanic church orgnization-units "grottoes" -- but i cannot fathom why. His Church of Satan did not honour Mediterranean sea-gods, he did not build garden follies, he did not worship the Virgin Mary, and fresh spring water was not a feature he valued highly. Perhaps he just liked the word grotto because using it sounded to him like a poke in the face of Catholicism as he knew of it through Lourdes. If that is so, it is yet another in a long list of examples of how his poor education and bragadocio led him into foolishness. Yours for more home-made theme parks, cat (the littlest mermaid) yronwode The Sacred Landscape ------- http://www.luckymojo.com/sacredland.html Topics suitable for discussion in this e-list can be found at: http://www.luckymojo.com/sacredland.html To UNsubscribe, send email to: unsubscribe-sacredlandscapelist@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/