Path: typhoon.sonic.net!not-for-mail Message-ID: <3ABD289E.577A@luckymojo.com> From: catherine yronwode Organization: Lucky Mojo Curio Co. X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01-C-MACOS8 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.magick,alt.magick.chaos,alt.magick.serious,alt.magick.tyagi Subject: Re: Was Al afraid of Al? References: <%qJu6.16530$8O6.3105656@typhoon.austin.rr.com> <9iMu6.22067$Q4.4066431@news2-win.server.ntlworld.com> <3abbb18a.98146834@news.mindspring.com> <3ABC10B7.500F@luckymojo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 55 Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2001 23:01:02 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.204.136.53 X-Complaints-To: abuse@sonic.net X-Trace: typhoon.sonic.net 985474862 209.204.136.53 (Sat, 24 Mar 2001 15:01:02 PST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2001 15:01:02 PST Xref: typhoon.sonic.net alt.magick:235423 alt.magick.chaos:32330 alt.magick.serious:15551 alt.magick.tyagi:26516 Satyr wrote: > > In article <3ABC10B7.500F@luckymojo.com>, "catherine yronwode" > wrote: > > He was also a man addicted to several drugs who also experiemnted > > with various non-addictive drugs. In my limited experience (53 yeas > > as the hippie child of beatniks), the types of drugs (and i include > > alcohol and tobacco here) that one ingests will have a formative > > effect on the quality of one's thoughts. It has long been my belief > > that the inconsistencies in Crowley's work probably stem from the > > effects of the different stimulant, narcotic, and psychedelic drugs > > he was using when he wrote various passages. Had he been a mere > > drunk or a mere heroin junkie, we could expect some consistency -- > > but such was not the case. > > > > Just 2 cents from a practical observer of life, cat yronwode > > There is always something funny when a hippie stands and points the > finger of puritanical judgement. > > Thanx for the comic relief! I did not point the finger of puritanical judgement -- i just gave an opinion as to why Crowley's themes and statements may have varied so much during his life. Drugs affect the neurobiology of the mind in varying ways. Some interfere with the serotonin system, some with the dopamine system, some activate other hormes or neurotransmitters. We all know this, instinctively if not medically, when we refer to one drug as "mellow" and another as "speedy" and another as "halucinogenic." The thoughts one has (and hence the writing one may produce) when stoned on marijuana are far different than those one has when stoned on alcohol -- and both differ from the thoughts one has when stoked on coffee ... or speed. Likewise, the effect of psilocybin is quite different from the effect of coacaine upon the mind. And Crowley took most of these driugs -- and more, including ether, hashish, and heroin -- he says as much in his autobiograhy. What i was saying is that since Crowley took a lot of different drugs, the drugs he took at various times undoubtedly affected his mental state in various ways -- and in my opinion, his mental state may have varied enough to produce seeming inconsistencies in what he wrote over the years. How you managed to twist that into a false assumption that i was puritanical and then make fun of me is something only you can explain -- but puritanical judgement was definitely not what i intended, hence your risibility was ill-founded. Cordially, cat yronwode