Path: typhoon.sonic.net!news-out.nuthinbutnews.com!news-in-austin.nuthinbutnews.com!feed.textport.net!news1.best.com!herald.uncanny.net!ssg.uncanny.net!robomod!not-for-mail From: catherine yronwode Newsgroups: soc.sexuality.general Subject: Re: Female Orgasm Date: 2 Apr 2001 11:08:36 -0700 Organization: Lucky Mojo Curio Co. Lines: 58 Approved: SSG Approval Key Message-ID: <3AC8BE8E.22CD@luckymojo.com> References: <15394-3AC86742-26@storefull-248.iap.bryant.webtv.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: herald.uncanny.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: herald.uncanny.net 986234916 19008 140.174.20.10 (2 Apr 2001 18:08:36 GMT) X-Complaints-To: newsabuse@uncanny.net NNTP-Posting-Date: 2 Apr 2001 18:08:36 GMT X-SSG-Policy: http://www.uncanny.net/~ssg X-SSG-Info-1: Send submissions to ssg@uncanny.net X-SSG-Info-2: Send technical complaints to ssg-admin@uncanny.net X-SSG-Info-3: Send complaints about policy to ssg-board@uncanny.net X-Comment: moderators do not necessarily agree or disagree with this article. X-Robomod: STUMP, ichudov@algebra.com (Igor Chudov), C++/Perl/Unix Consulting X-envelope-info: X-Auth: PGPMoose V1.1 PGP soc.sexuality.general iQBVAwUBOsjAHxjLI1hTTLWlAQGI/QH/YXqlEy277zRj+1Aray9lAma5Ir2rSlkU sDNwkZCegwQxtICA3GgADpRupBnVqUS0cgTn8ee446LpBhP2a0vIzw== =VatG Xref: typhoon.sonic.net soc.sexuality.general:28229 James wrote: > > Steve Swanson schreef: > > > My girlfriend can't seem to get off while we make love. She has no > > prob with orgasms when we have oral sex or we masturbate together, > > its only when we fuck. The only way for her to get an orgasm in any > > position is by finguring her clit. I can't say this is a bad thing > > for me since i like to watch but it can't be very satisfying to her. > [...] Here's a little sexual anatomy 101 (or maybe 201): the > clitoris and penis are homologous organs; they're formed from the same > tissue in foetuses. Now, would you expect to be able to have an orgasm > without having your penis touched at all? Probably not. [...] Furthermore, what many people call "the clitoris" -- the little "button" at the top of the vulva -- is NOT the entire clitoris. It is just the clitoral glans, analogous to the TIP of the penis. The actual clitoris lays beneath the skin in the shape of an upside-down letter "Y" that forks around the vulva. The glans is at the top of this upside-down "Y" figure. Most men prefer their entire penis to be stroked, not just the glans, whether manually or during penis-in-vagina intercourse. The same is true of most women, especially during intercourse -- they want a full clitoral stroke, not just a button-rubbing. This is especially true during penis-in-vagaina intercourse. The position which best facilitates full clitoral stimulation during intercourse is typically woman-on-top, although it is not the only way, of course. For further details on clitoral anatomy -- and an illustrated explanation in simple terms that shows how and why many women can enjoy full clitoral stimulation and orgasms during penis-in-vagina intercourse through what is known medically as "clitoral excursion and seizure") -- see these two non-commercial, non-porn web pages: The Clitoris During Intercourse http://www.luckymojo.com/tkclitoris.html The Clitoris Larger Than Previously Thought http://www.luckymojo.com/tkclitorislarger.html These pages are also available in Spanish. > Since "the act of sex" (think "doing it") is synonymous with penile/ > vaginal intercourse in the western world, we (especially men) think of > the penis and the vagina as being opposites and as the main sexual > organs (even kindergardeners will tell you "boys have a penis and > girls have a vagina". If we're thinking in terms of reproduction, it > makes sense, but most people (again, in the western world) don't have > sex specifically/only to reproduce. That was wonderfully expressed, James. cat yronwode Karezza and Sacred Sex ------ http://www.luckymojo.com/sacredsex.html