Path: ultra.sonic.net!news From: nagasiva@luckymojo.com (nagasiva) Newsgroups: alt.magick,alt.magick.tyagi,alt.occult Subject: Re: "BLUFF YOUR WAY IN THE OCCULT" rvw (was Magick for Dummies...) Date: 29 Oct 1999 12:20:20 -0700 Organization: Sonoma Interconnect,Santa Rosa,CA(us),http://www.sonic.net Lines: 62 Message-ID: <7vcs1k$6b6@bolt.sonic.net> References: <3812295A.241E@lan2wan.com> <7vb072$o3r@bolt.sonic.net> <3819B1C3.270D@luckymojo.com> Reply-To: spam@luckymojo.com NNTP-Posting-Host: bolt.sonic.net X-Newsreader: NN version 6.5.1 (NOV) Xref: ultra.sonic.net alt.magick:164283 alt.magick.tyagi:20493 49991029 IVom nagasiva spam@luckymojo.com wrote: >> > well "Bluff Your Way in the Occult" is a slant on a scattershot with >> > humor (for those who know the subject) and sound historical >> > research. get it used if you don't want to afford the new price >> > (brief and economical). no index and no table of contents in my 1990 >> > version! clever overviews, biased by the opinions of the authors. >> > amusing and informative. Ashley Yakeley: >> I have that (1988 Ravette Books edition, has contents, cost #1.95). >> I've made good use of it in arguments! Very funny especially since >> it's almost all true. catherine yronwode : >Could we get a sample quote -- let's say i picked the topic of .... >hmmmm... Rosicrucianism. What would it tell me? _Rosicrucians_ Watch out. Some people who call themselves Rosicrucians keep putting strange ads in the newspapers. Don't talk about present-day Rosicrucianism because one may be hanging around. The Order of the Rosy Cross is one of the all-time classic mysterious orders. It was invented as a joke by Johann Valentin Andreae, who published three short books anonymously in Germany around 1610. One of Andreae's books was *Fama Fratentitas* [sic], the story of Christian Rosenkreuz (the guy after whom the old order was named), who supposedly started a brotherhood of the Rosy Cross in the fifteenth century. Another of Andreae's tracts, *The Chemical Wedding*, was a typical piece of alchemical writing. It didn't make any sense. The place was buzzing with people who wanted to lay their hands on this secret knowledge. Andreae later admitted to the world that his writing was gigantic put-on, but because mystics have a notoriously poor sense of humor, people refused to believe him and have claimed to possess this pool of knowledge in direct succession ever since. The claim is useful for bluffers because nobody has figured out what the brotherhood of the Rosy Cross was all about. Arthur Waite, who wrote a definitive book on the order, reached the same conclusion after more than 600 pages. ---------------------------------------------------- "BLUFF YOUR WAY IN THE OCCULT", by Owens and Rae, Centennial Press, 1990; pages 29-30. _________________________________________________ blessed beast! -- mailto:nagasiva@luckymojo.com (nagasiva); mailto:boboroshi@satanservice.org TOKUS: http://www.satanservice.org/ http://www.luckymojo.com/nagasiva.html notification: I may post any email replies; cc me if some response desired.