Path: ultra.sonic.net!news From: tyagi@houseofkaos.abyss.com (nagasiva) Newsgroups: alt.fan.kali.astarte.inanna,alt.magick.tyagi,alt.magick,alt.magick.tantra,alt.religion.buddhism,talk.religion.buddhism,alt.zen,alt.philosophy.zen,alt.philosophy.taoism,alt.mythology,alt.folklore,alt.paranormal.spells.hexes.magic,alt.lucky.w,talk.religion.misc,talk.religion.misc,alt.christnet Subject: Promising Immortality (was Unusual Spell Request....) Date: 23 Mar 1999 11:38:25 -0800 Organization: Sonoma Interconnect,Santa Rosa,CA(us),http://www.sonic.net Lines: 73 Message-ID: <7d8qjh$3ch@bolt.sonic.net> References: <7d5o9b$c3q@journal.concentric.net> <36F6A7BC.360A@luckymojo.com> Reply-To: tyagi@houseofkaos.abyss.com NNTP-Posting-Host: bolt.sonic.net X-Newsreader: NN version 6.5.1 (NOV) Xref: ultra.sonic.net alt.fan.kali.astarte.inanna:1872 alt.magick.tyagi:16442 alt.magick:139196 alt.magick.tantra:8613 talk.religion.buddhism:74654 alt.zen:128591 alt.philosophy.zen:21555 alt.philosophy.taoism:46840 alt.mythology:48581 alt.folklore:1760 alt.paranormal.spells.hexes.magic:8780 alt.lucky.w:3382 talk.religion.misc:281748 alt.christnet:431366 49990323 IIIom om om om om om hail aom catherine yronwode : # Can magic counteract genetics? I don't think so. If it could, # we'd never die, or get old, or get sick. this is the premise of alchemists, Buddhists, Christians, and a variety of other religious: that sickness, old age, and death can be avoided, driven off, transcended, etc. the 'Magical Elixir' is an age-old feature of legends, by a variety of names (Pill of Immortality, Fountain of Youth, etc.). it also may be found in modern Hermetic organizations in the form of the Universal Medicine, presumed to be a remedy of very many (all?) human biophysical and social ills as it is associated with the Philosopher's Stone (another name for this mythic panacea). this elixir is the focus of great number of modern magical cults, and is described as composed of everything from the fluids of conjugating sex magick experts to the subtle excresences of menstruating priestesses of Shakti, from the holy wine transmuted by the Eucharist to the marvellous potions made from certain herbs and oils combined at specified times and accompanied by particular ceremonial gestures and/or incantations. sometimes it is said that the elixir is merely a symbol, at times for genuine love expressed through charity, or for actions evidencing compassion and devotion. sometimes the elixir is described as being generated in the bodies of those who engage certain behaviors, from service to sex. the way the elixir works can even take many forms. some talk of it as a pill to ingest that transforms those who take it; some say it is a stone created from the magical combination or transmutation of ordinary substances through extraordinary means which benefits all those who come into contact with it or its fragments with health, luck and wealth; some say it is a fluid which is created outside the body through magical or ordinary means that may be ingested to address any malady; and some describe it as a biological byproduct of extraordinary or unusual endeavors like mystical disciplines or magical and forbidden rites which transforms the body into a new configuration. the legend of the wish-fulfilling object (gem, djinn, others) is closely-related. the religious tend to offer it as a reward for participating in their sociocultural enterprises after a long life, a short but valiant life of martyrdom, or for obeying their moralism. Christians and many others consider it a special PLACE to which the metaphysical 'essence' of a person (soul, atman, jiva, whatever) is carried after having been admitted by the reigning religious supernatural authority. Buddhists and some others talk about their religous exploits as if they could be relied upon to permanently TERMINATE the 'problems' of sickness, old age, and death, and often place a great deal of emphasis upon the effort of the individual in achieving this (usually through the prescribed method). none but those who worship Maya, Shakti, Terra, Kali -- that playful goddess whose terrible game consists of time, change, and the unending ravages of pitiful patterns, are truly capable of coming to peace with Her evils and delights, however. all the rest simply pretend to represent Her as Her agents and slide down into Her glorious ma(w). blessed beast! nagasiva -- tyagi@houseofkaos.abyss.com; http://www.abyss.com/tokus (emailed replies may be posted); cc me your replies see also http://www.luckymojo.com/mojocatSPELLS.html