Path: typhoon.sonic.net!feed.news.sonic.net!sjc70.webusenet.com!news.webusenet.com!cyclone.bc.net!snoopy.risq.qc.ca!news-peer.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!panix!panix2.panix.com!not-for-mail From: glass@panix.com (Robert Scott Martin) Newsgroups: alt.magick,alt.magick.order,alt.magick.tyagi,alt.thelema Subject: Re: Polish Rosicrucianism (was: Objectively Studying the GD) Date: 16 Mar 2003 12:44:10 -0500 Organization: Welcome to Paradise Lines: 29 Message-ID: References: <3E7017E0.2FBB@pacbell.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: panix2.panix.com X-Trace: reader2.panix.com 1047836650 16027 166.84.1.2 (16 Mar 2003 17:44:10 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@panix.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 17:44:10 +0000 (UTC) Xref: typhoon.sonic.net alt.magick:340957 alt.magick.order:7356 alt.magick.tyagi:39189 >> possibility of physical transmutation In article <3E7017E0.2FBB@pacbell.net>, Joseph wrote: > Excuse me for butting in my .05 cents worth but isn't that the crux of >the argument? Isn't there a debate amongst those who are devoted to the >concept (alchemy) as to whether it is "Truly" about the "possibility of >physical transmutation" in the manner the statement is usually >understood? Turning lead into gold, or "transmuting" any element into >any other. Those subscribing to this often times suggest it (alchemy) is >the parant of modern chemestry. Which has acomplished the transmutation >of elements. > > The other argument being, the whole of the alchemical literature, lore >and myth are about an internal process, a spiritual alchemy, that may >involve actual but minute amounts of elements, gold, silver, copper, >iron, water, air, etc. etc. etc. but in the alembic and furnace that is >mans body and envinroment. Could there be a coded revelation of mental >states leading to altered awarness and consciousness and ultimating in >the self becoming the philosophers stone, the summua bonum of perfect >happiness? Thanks. You sum up the problem elegantly. It is perhaps my error, certainly my heresy, that I refuse to acknowledge the difference between internal and external alchemy. If there is a distinction, I trust the fire to burn it away, leaving only the imperishable wherever it can be found -- within or without, in the skull or under glass.