Path: typhoon.sonic.net!feed.news.sonic.net!sjc70.webusenet.com!news.usenetserver.com!border1.nntp.sjc.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!newsfeed3.easynews.com!newsfeed1.easynews.com!easynews.com!easynews!elnk-pas-nf1!newsfeed.earthlink.net!stamper.news.pas.earthlink.net!newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net.POSTED!ec13cbac!not-for-mail From: heidrick@well.com (Bill Heidrick) Newsgroups: alt.magick Subject: Re: Heidrick Reply-To: heidrick@well.com Message-ID: <40487193.4124625@news.west.earthlink.net> References: <403f2fda.4570712@news.west.earthlink.net> <4040a2dc.5846281@news.west.earthlink.net> <4041e394.4436892@news.west.earthlink.net> <40447b60.4364884@news.west.earthlink.net> X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.11/32.235 Lines: 37 Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2004 12:51:10 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.165.40.122 X-Complaints-To: abuse@earthlink.net X-Trace: newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net 1078491070 209.165.40.122 (Fri, 05 Mar 2004 04:51:10 PST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2004 04:51:10 PST Organization: EarthLink Inc. -- http://www.EarthLink.net Xref: typhoon.sonic.net alt.magick:369458 93 Satyr, >A question while I have your attention, if you don't mind: what do you >know of the De Laurence edition of Raphael's Ancient Manuscript of >Talismanic Magic? Any idea who transcribed/translated the original >Rabbi Solomon it contains? That's an odd one. My copy says "1916," but I suspect it's a reprint. Judging by the handwriting (it's reproduced from a handwritten MS of some sort), it looks late 19th century to me, conforming to the "1880" date in the back page; and the remark of the existence of "Uranus" as "Herschel" suggests 19th century (Uranius was at first called "Georgium Sidus" when discovered in the late 18th century). Apparently the person who wrote it used the name "Raphael" about then. That leads me to think of "Ophiel" as used by Peach, but the date is too early. Maybe De Laurence himself, maybe somebody connected to Plumber scribed it. I don't know, but there were several books claimed as "Raphael's" in that period, including a popular ephemerius. Whoever did it,, it was done as a "fair copy" and not as a working "book of shadows" as Gardener called similar things much later in his Wicca innovation. There are no corrections in the text, bad scribbles lined out or anything of that sort. The author did not display a deep knowledge of the subject, but merely transcribed and added shallow comment. The treatment of the Intelligences and Spirits of the Planets is akin to that adopted in the Golden Dawn. There was an apparition of the Archangel Raphael to Martin de Gallardon on January 15th of 1816 e.v. in France. That led to a mimic of the Jacobean legend, with Louis XVIIth in place of the immortal Bonnie Prince. Perhaps this pen name was inspired by that story. There is also a late 19th or early 20th century hand done Tarot deck sometimes in print. I don't know if that's connected or not. 93 93/93 Bill