Path: typhoon.sonic.net!feed.news.sonic.net!sjc70.webusenet.com!news.webusenet.com!pd7cy2so!shaw.ca!sn-xit-03!sn-xit-04!sn-xit-01!sn-post-01!supernews.com!corp.supernews.com!not-for-mail From: Gnomedplume@unowhere.com (Gnome d Plume) Newsgroups: alt.magick Subject: Re: Voynich manuscript is gibberish? Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2004 01:36:23 GMT Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com Message-ID: <4015bbc6.22172603@trialnews.peoplepc.com> References: X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.5/32.451 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: abuse@supernews.com Lines: 42 Xref: typhoon.sonic.net alt.magick:365443 On Mon, 26 Jan 2004 10:10:00 -0000, "Alex Sumner" wrote: > >"Ka" wrote in message >news:rFVQb.344$F51.196@newsfep3-gui.server.ntli.net... >> http://www.guardian.co.uk/arts/news/story/0,11711,1130832,00.html >> >> Secret of historic code: it's gibberish >> > >The irony being that the word "gibberish" actually derives from "Geber-ish" >i.e. like unto the encrypted writings of the Alchemist Geber. > >AS >http://www.geocities.com/alex_sumner/ >"EHNB" - http://www.geocities.com/alex_sumner/ehnb.htm > **** Alex: Good point that. It seems every 15 years or so some clever individual comes up with what he says is the "real" secret behind the *Voynich Manuscript* and publishes a book on it. The last one was, as I recall, the *Cathar Endura Rite* a sort of ritualized euthanasia that Dr Kavorikian would love--but there was nothing in the MS graphics to support this conclusion. That author said that it was written in an obscure Flemish dialect that had then been encrypted with a cypher alphabet---kinda like Navajo written in Greek. What none of these Voynich decoders seem to realize is that there really are unbreakable codes and undecipherable ancient languages--until you find the key. We have a present day mythos that big mainframes at NSA can break anything. If so why can't we read Linear B, or Rongo-rongo? Even the old book code, if used with a St Cyr slip (three sliding alphabets) is a daunting proposition for the best cryptographers. If the (code) book used were to be written in Lower Duriac with an Armenian alphabet transposed into Cyrilic it would be impossible.**** Good Magick! Gnome