Path: ultra.sonic.net!remarQ-easT!supernews.com!remarQ.com!nntp.primenet.com!nntp.gctr.net!logbridge.uoregon.edu!news.nero.net!news2.OregonVOS.net!compass.OregonVOS.net!mmontcha From: Matthew Montchalin Newsgroups: alt.divination Subject: Re: i ching Date: Sun, 26 Sep 1999 01:17:07 -0700 Organization: Oregon VOS Lines: 48 Message-ID: References: <19990912120622.21370.00008633@ng-ch1.aol.com> <19990925202857.20779.00002681@ng-fm1.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: compass.oregonvos.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Trace: news2.OregonVOS.net 938333793 28134 159.121.170.2 (26 Sep 1999 08:16:33 GMT) X-Complaints-To: support@OregonVOS.net NNTP-Posting-Date: 26 Sep 1999 08:16:33 GMT In-Reply-To: <19990925202857.20779.00002681@ng-fm1.aol.com> Xref: ultra.sonic.net alt.divination:13997 On 26 Sep 1999, KBurne1045 wrote: | Is 45 present/45 future a good combination? | | I am having trouble when I read and the present is positive, then the | future is definitely not. How do you work with this conflict? What method are you using to generate your hexagrams? One usually builds a hexagram from the bottom line up. If you are drawing the lines on a piece of paper, count off enough space for six lines. Now, starting at the bottom of the space, that is where you draw your first line. Keep going up, a line at a time, until all six lines are drawn. That makes one, complete hexagram. (If any of the lines are 'special' then make a star or check mark next to them; 'special' lines are considered 'moving' lines, with a potential to flip to the opposite state: a broken line becomes a solid line, or a solid line becomes a broken line.) Of course, you already know this, but it does not hurt to go over this for others who may be reading. A hexagram has a number of 'traits' that are unique to it. You mentioned "past" and "future." This trait depends somewhat upon the question submitted to the I Ching. Unlike the many methods of divining through the Tarot, where are cards are assigned to 'times' (like the Present, the Future, and the Past), the I Ching is capable of addressing the future and the past as dislocated events that are mystically or acausally "related" to each other; it takes into account amazing coincidences as much as that which is logically connected to each other. That's the whole point of synchronicity, where separate events can lead up to an amazing connection that, upon being connected, can spin away from each other again: two geese flying, one eastwards and one westwards, may meet each other --- and upon their encounter --- separate and keep going. You mentioned Hexagram 45 --- Ts'ui --- "Gatherings" --- but you did not indicate whether any of the lines were in motion. Assuming none of them were in motion, we can safely say that the upper trigram (Tui or "Lake") is clearly above the lower trigram (K'un or "Earth"). Furthermore, the internal trigrams are in an established and unwaivering relationship with each other: "new and fresh trees (Sun)" completely cover "an old and weathered hill (Ken)." As is usually the case, upper trigrams denote newer, or pending developments, and lower trigrams denote older, past developments. If none of the lines are in motion, there is an ecological and harmonious balance between the new and the old. Although winds are increasing, the trees grow strong. People come together; forces unite in a natural balance. People will climb the hill. It does not look too high, and they are therefore advance in good heart.