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From: Daniel Garcia <kender@hollyfeld.org>
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On Fri, 3 May 1996, Hannah M.G. Shapero wrote:
> > Iesous Xristos Theos (er... son of...) Soter.
> > Jesus Christ, Son of God, Saviour.
> Iesous Xristos Theou Uios Soter.....first letters are IXTHUS. "Uios" means
> "son." Theou is the genitive case of Theos, meaning "of God."

Nifty - I never realized there was this type of meaning to the word before.

> Another example of sacred numerology in the Gospels is the number of the
> miraculous draught of fishes in John 21:11. They are carefully counted:
> one hundred and fifty-three. Now I remember from an article on Biblical
> numerology that 153 had some important mathematical significance but alas

Add up the numbers from 1 to 17, i.e 1 + 2 + 3 + 4 + ... + 17, and you
get 153.  17 is the 7th prime number, 7 signifies completeness, and 10,
testimony, so 17 is the testminoy of completeness, or victory.  Some ages
of the patriarchs (both length of lives, and at important events) are
direct multiples of 17.  Christ rose from the grave on the 17th day of the
month.  I can pull out many many more examples of this number's usage
in the bible[1].

> I can't remember it now. The number 666 in Revelations was also supposed
> to line up with Nero thru some letter-number code.

Also pulling from the same book, some more fun with numbers.  In Rev 13:18:

	"Here is Wisdom, Let him that hath understanding count the number 
	 of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is six
	 hundred, three-score and six."

REvelation 17:9 opens with: "And here is the mind which hath wisdom"  From
verse 9 to verse 14, there are a series of numbers:

	verse  9: 7 heads, 7 mountains, and 1 woman
	verse 10: 7 kings, 5 are fallen, 1 that is, and 1 that is not yet
		  come
	verse 11: it is said that the beast was the 8th and was of the 7th
	verse 12: there are 10horns, 10 kings, 1 hour
	verse 13: they have 1 mind and give their strength and power to
	 	  the beast
	verse 14: there is war.

Earlier in the book, the author showed that 600 was the number associated 
with war.  So, the number for verse 14 is 600.  Add up the other numbers,
the 7 heads, 7 mountains, 1 women, yadda yadda yadad, and you get 66, add
that to 600 for war, and you get 666.  Interesting side note, the word
diaspora, or scattering, has a numeric value of 666.

There's also a book out there called Thematics(sp?) which looks at the
numerical value of various verses in the bible and such.  This guy has
spent a number of years looking for correspondesnses in the numeric
value of pieces of scripture (for example, old testement verses dealing
with christ have a value that are a multiple of 8 :).  He also has spent
quite a deal of time explaining why this isn't just due to chance, studying
other works of literature to see if just maybe, there were similar patterns.
Very interesting read, if people are interested, i'll try to dig up more
info on the book.

D

[1] Vallowe, Ed. F "Biblical Mathematics: Keys to Scripture Numerics", 
	Faith Printing Company, 1984
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