Path: typhoon.sonic.net!not-for-mail From: 333 (nigris) Newsgroups: alt.magick.tyagi,alt.magick,alt.divination,alt.magick.serious,alt.pagan.magick Subject: English Gematric Systems Organization: Sonoma Interconnect,Santa Rosa,CA(us),http://www.sonic.net Lines: 59 Sender: yronwode@sonic.net Message-ID: <8so794$a4@bolt.sonic.net> Reply-To: spam@luckymojo.com X-Newsreader: NN version 6.5.4 (NOV) Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2000 01:26:14 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 208.201.224.36 X-Complaints-To: abuse@sonic.net X-Trace: typhoon.sonic.net 972005174 208.201.224.36 (Thu, 19 Oct 2000 18:26:14 PDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 18:26:14 PDT Xref: typhoon.sonic.net alt.magick.tyagi:25760 alt.magick:213373 alt.divination:17392 alt.magick.serious:11336 alt.pagan.magick:25156 50001011 Vom >> The English qabbala I refer to is..a=1,L=2,w=3,etc etc.Are you >> familiar with this system? that is a type of gematria, sometimes (even intentionally) confused with Kabbalah by those who compete with Jewish mysticism (and who are indeed constructing a rival within 'Thelemic' religiomysticism. 718: > The system you mention is NAEQ6, also known by its users as EQ11. > There is an eGroup for users of this system: 'eq-list@egroups'. There > you will find a lot of archived information compiled by its > listmembers. Another egroup you might be interested in is Holycram, > which is currently analysing Liber Legis using different systems of > gematria. quite true. > There are several other English systems being touted as exceptional; > I have created one called the Star-Key which has produced impressive > results when applied to the text of Liber Legis. It is documented in > a file to be found at the T93-l (eGroup) homesite in the file > section; the file is 'Liber 956 - The Star-Key'. not to mention the conventional systems of English Gematria such as the intuitive A=1, B=2, C=3..., I=9, J=10, K=11..., S=19, T=20..., Z=26 and the Ulian Schemata, based upon the Greek and Jewish constructions: 1s 10s 100s 1 A J S 2 B K T 3 C L U 4 D M V 5 E N W 6 F O X 7 G P Y 8 H Q Z 9 I R - Nigel Pennick ("Magical Alphabets") provides its name and says that a man by the name of D. Jason Cooper came up with the system. There is a long history of English Gematria, stretching back to Agrippa and Dee and others, though people varied as to their attribution system. these two structures have historical precedent. most of the gematria systems found in what is called "English Qaballa" (or "EQ") today is based on what correspondences can be discovered through its use (a valuable and kind of scientific approach to gematric divination), proceeding from a different premise than taking the 'naturally-derived' number-letters within which secret messages from the Deity could be discovered. blessed beast! (nigris) 333 -- FREE HOODOO CATALOGUE! send street address to: catalogue@luckymojo.com mailto:nagasiva@luckymojo.com ; http://www.luckymojo.com/nagasiva.html ; mailto:boboroshi@satanservice.org ; http://www.satanservice.org/ emailed replies may be posted; cc replies if response desired