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"Satyr" <satyr418@nopressedpighotmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 07 Sep 2002 16:46:03 -0400, Asiya wrote:
> > "Satyr" <satyr418@nopressedpighotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:AAme9.1237$i84.1134@fe02...
> >> On Fri, 06 Sep 2002 16:02:46 -0400, J. Karlin wrote:
> >>
> >> > http://jktarot.com/news.html
> >> >
> >> > Includes a link to new information concerning the origin and
> > meaning of
> >> > the word, "Tarot".
> >>
> >> Who cares?
> >
> > People who are interested in the truth on the origin and meaning
of the
> > word "Tarot".
>
> I'll accept that. My comment was more a shot at one of our larger
talking
> heads, and not at the subject matter per se. Though truth to tell,
when I
> wish to investigate the origin of a word, I begin with reference
works,
> such as the OED. And come to that, I can't see how the origin of the
name
> of a thing seriously impacts the study and understanding of the
thing
> named.

Many people believe that fanciful speculations on the origin of the
word "Tarot" prove that the cards originated with the ancient
Egyptians, Kabbalists, the Templars, or Sufis, etc. and therefore were
designed to contain and pass down ancient wisdom, the Key to the
Cosmos, and so on. When in fact, the cards we know as "Tarot"
originated in fifteenth-century Italy as a card game, under the name
"Trionfi". For those who believe in its ancient origins, it does
indeed seriously impact their study and understanding of Tarot. And it
helps drive the market of feel-good shortcut new-agey "Tarot" books
put out.

> Were it called "diddly-poos", it would still be what it is, not
> what we call it.

This is a point that JK makes in the first paragraph.

Asiya