Path: typhoon.sonic.net!not-for-mail Newsgroups: alt.magick.tyagi,alt.pagan.magick,alt.magick,alt.tarot,alt.divination Subject: Big Blue Brick Error! (Re: Crowley's Tarot Trump Switch) References: <3EFB0DAB.7020004@cox.net> <%JFKa.5792$%3.279397@typhoon.sonic.net> <1pGNa.8431$%3.372685@typhoon.sonic.net> <3F0797D2.7000908@cox.net> From: nagasiva Reply-To: spam@luckymojo.com User-Agent: nn/6.6.0 Lines: 84 Message-ID: Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2003 10:04:16 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 208.201.242.18 X-Complaints-To: abuse@sonic.net X-Trace: typhoon.sonic.net 1057658656 208.201.242.18 (Tue, 08 Jul 2003 03:04:16 PDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2003 03:04:16 PDT Xref: typhoon.sonic.net alt.magick.tyagi:40314 alt.pagan.magick:37720 alt.magick:351295 alt.tarot:117668 alt.divination:21753 50030707 viii om Pisces-Age-Y2006 nagasiva: #> Trump Table Resolution #> #> the Trump Table at the back of Crowley's book may be used #> by the informed occultist to decipher Crowley's intent, #> which he concealed in his cards. this table displays his #> abandonment of the significance of what he called "Title #> and Numbers Printed on the Cards" in favour of the "Key #> Scale", mapping to the sefirotic paths to which each #> trump is assigned within that table. it contains the #> following information necessary to understand his intent: #> ------------------------------------------------------------------ #> Number/Title on Card Letter Value Attribution Key Scale #> ------------------------------------------------------------------ #> IV EMPEROR TZADDI 90,900 [AQUARIUS] 28 #> VIII [JUSTICE] LAMED 30 [LIBRA] 22 #> IX [STRENGTH] TETH 9 [LEO] 19 #> XVII STAR HE 5 [ARIES] 15 #> ------------------------------------------------------------------ #> this table is otherwise in *ascending order down the page*, #> which indicates that these 4 are misplaced SATANAS : # you mean the fact that the *regular Hebrew order* # of the alphabet is violated, no, I mean EVERY COLUMN BUT THE FIRST IS REVERSED. not only is the Hebrew out of place on every one of these cards, directly implying their interchange, but so are the Values, Attributions and Key Scales. # and thus, there is something ('a little more?') implied? it is implied that these are cyphered, fucked up, as a blind. # it wasn't too clear how you stated it, i am suggesting an addition/ # change not so much critisizing or implying anything... thanks for the feedback. I'm trying to make it clear, but the picture is even more complex than I'd imagined, there being some ambiguity in intent on Crowley's part. # Does this favorably compare with the revised tables given # in the blue brick? Or are you suggesting something new? amazing. you pointed me to these tables in the Big Blue Brick and I note that Hymenaeus Beta appears to have FALLEN FOR CROWLEY'S BLIND HOOK LINE AND SINKER, as if he didn't even read the Book of the Thoth or at least not carefully enough to have understood Crowley by his words. here's what following the blind results in: #> IV AQUARIUS ARIES #> V TAURUS TAURUS #> VI GEMINI GEMINI #> VII CANCER CANCER #> VIII LEO LEO #> IX VIRGO VIRGO #> XI LIBRA LIBRA #> XIII SCORPIO SCORPIO #> XV CAPRICORN CAPRICORN #> XVII ARIES AQUARIUS XVIII PISCES PISCES #> ...one of his BLINDS in his deck. your #> reference to the Trump Table on page 278 #> of "The Book of Thoth".... # # does 1994-7 blue brick supercede this? you tell me. :> I say the Blue Brick "Liber ABA" "Second Revised Edition" edited by Hymenaeus Beta, Weiser, 1997 (didn't they haul it in for revision almost immediately after it first came out??) is WRONG. the exact displaced zodiac appears in his tables. I maintain that Hymenaeus Beta must have been confused, or profoundly misled, to have achieved such an error when representing himself as such an authority. nagasiva