Path: typhoon.sonic.net!not-for-mail Newsgroups: alt.magick.tyagi,alt.magick,alt.tarot,alt.divination,alt.thelema,alt.pagan.magick Subject: Thothbook Sleuthing References: <3F5A8544.939A291E@yahoo-dot.ca> <3F63C75E.3050508@cox.SPAMnet> From: 333 Reply-To: spam@luckymojo.com User-Agent: nn/6.6.0 Lines: 82 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2003 08:52:43 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 208.201.242.18 X-Complaints-To: abuse@sonic.net X-Trace: typhoon.sonic.net 1063875163 208.201.242.18 (Thu, 18 Sep 2003 01:52:43 PDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2003 01:52:43 PDT Xref: typhoon.sonic.net alt.magick.tyagi:41524 alt.magick:356792 alt.tarot:118972 alt.divination:22151 alt.thelema:24 alt.pagan.magick:38766 50030918 viii frater virgo : #> Are you referring to p. 278, as in the subject line, the first #> 777-style table of correspondences in Appendix B? Or do you really #> mean p. 287, "The Vital Triads"? (At least those are the page numbers #> in my edition: Weiser paperback, 1974 (printed 1978). #> #> #> I'm inclined to think it's a simple copying error (whether by Crowley #> or an editor I have no idea) rather than a deliberate blind. As I see #> it the inconsistencies in the correspondences given in _The Book of #> Thoth_ require changes in exactly two places to be reconciled: under #> "General characters of the trumps as they appear in use" exchange the #> verses (but not the keywords) under IV (p. 255) and XVII (p. 259), #> and in the table of correspondences on p. 278 exchange the Aries and #> Aquarius glyphs. The order of entries on pp. 278 follows that of the #> numbers on the trumps, IMO only natural in a book on Tarot; other #> than the accidentally (?) switched glyphs, and the appearance of the #> Spirit attributions (31') at the bottom instead of under XX, they're #> only "jumbled" in comparison to _777_, where the paths are ordered #> according to the "Key Scale", i.e. their position on the Tree of #> Life. The arrangement of the colour scales on pp. 279-80 is a bit #> confused, with rows 28 and 15 switched to follow the trumps as on the #> preceding page, but 19 and 22 not; again I attribute this to #> editorial carelessness rather than some deep motive. #> #> AFAICT everything else in the book regarding the correspondences of #> _The Emperor_ and _The Star_ (pp. 9f, 39f, 77f, 109ff, 219f, 255, #> 259, 266, 268 & 279ff -- have I missed any?) is quite consistent. # # siva and others are having it out on Thelema 93-L (yahoo) on this topic. # makes for some interesting reading. the gist of what I found so far: Orig-To: thelema93-l@yahoogroups.com my contention based on cyphered tables 278, 284 (1981 Weiser): STAR=HE=ARIES=15 EMPEROR=TZADDI=AQUARIUS=28 Thothbook implications: *-->indicates supports my assertion THp9-10 Star=He=15 * p9-10 Emperor=Tzaddi=28 * p77 Emperor=Tzaddi=Aries p78 Emperor=Tzaddi=15 p109 Star=He=Aquarius p203 Star=He=15 * p203n Star=15 * p203n Emperor=28 * p219 Emperor=Tzaddi * p226 Emperor=Tzaddi=Aries p229 Star=He=Aquarius p220? Star=He * p255 IV=Star * p259 XVII=Emperor * p266t He=15 * p266t Tzaddi=28 * p268t Star=He=15 * p268t Emperor=Tzaddi=28 * p278t Star=He=Aries=15 * p278t Emperor=Tzaddi=Aqu=28 * p279 [Emperor]=28=Scarlet * p280 [Star]=15=Violet * p284t Aries=15=[He] * p284t Aquarius=28=[Tzaddi] * p287t IV=[Emperor] p287t XVII=[Star] MWTp310 Star=He * changes to presumed Roman Numeral and 284t values calculated. corrections? additions? 333 =================================================== material on topic from Eq I:8 and Harris omitted as inconsequential but strangely-resonant with data.