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Subject: Prayer vs. Magic (was More questions)
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50000209 IVom

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>> Some people say all you need to do is to pray to God 
>> and nothing will happen to you, you will be protected 
>> against all spells, yoou don't need to do anything.

a God helps those what helps themselves. prayer to a God 
is a form of request for help, and this help will be given
to the faithful in correlation to the sincerety of the
prayerful, the power and beneficence of the deity from 
whom help is sought.

peacedawge@aol.comgarbage (Jo):
> If the greatness of god were true to the exent people 
> expound i'ts/his virtues to be,the change never would 
> have been allowed to happen in the first place.

that depends. without sufficient faith, without knowing
the desire of the faithful (or is the God omniscient?),
the God may not protect that person.

> Wake up and smell the incense. It is the faith you 
> possess in itself that makes things happen/not happen ,
> not what /who you have that faith *in*. 

the Bible is full of stories of the rewards bestowed upon
those whose faith was strong in the God. it is not faith
in a God which makes miracles, according to many Christians.
only the God can make miracles. magic, on the other hand,
is sometimes said to be the direction of miracles in
conformity with the will of the God.

insofar as power has been placed within the herb and the
mineral one might combine in a specific formulaic way to
effect a specific effect, so also has the God provided
a manner by which reality may be changed. it is quite
possible that this change may only take place with the
Creator's assent, in which case prayer for protection BY
the Creator will prevent any magic from affecting the
faithful from harm.

blackman99
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