Path: typhoon.sonic.net!not-for-mail From: nagasiva@luckymojo.com (blackman99) Newsgroups: alt.magick.tyagi,alt.lucky.w,alt.magick,alt.christnet.demonology Subject: Demon Protection (was Demon appearance) Organization: Sonoma Interconnect,Santa Rosa,CA(us),http://www.sonic.net Lines: 94 Sender: yronwode@sonic.net Message-ID: <8avbpu$406@bolt.sonic.net> References: <8ac44u$b9a$1@slb6.atl.mindspring.net> <38CC23B1.C9048506@watch.com> <38CC24B6.C7F09E03@watch.com> <38cc392b.5605808@news> Reply-To: spam@luckymojo.com X-Newsreader: NN version 6.5.4 (NOV) Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2000 07:38:36 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 208.201.224.36 X-Complaints-To: abuse@sonic.net X-Trace: typhoon.sonic.net 953365116 208.201.224.36 (Fri, 17 Mar 2000 23:38:36 PST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2000 23:38:36 PST Xref: typhoon.sonic.net alt.magick.tyagi:22117 alt.lucky.w:7046 alt.magick:183744 alt.christnet.demonology:10303 PrincessRain: >>>> What is indicated to do when one sees a demon at night and cannot speak or >>>> scream? "is indicated" is the difficult part of this request, because most of the literature that I have seen thusfar doesn't take into account the idea of being unable to speak or scream aside from protection that will avail the mage of a certain god's or spirit's powers at all times. there are ways of getting around this, however. Sentinel : >>> If you are a Christian then call on Jesus with your mind (he can hear you.) >> >>James 4:7 "Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil and he will >> flee from you." this is the logical option: mental activity in defense. reciting Psalms, for example, are well-known protective spells. Muslims would probably also suggest certain Surahs from "Qur'an", and as it is dedicated from the same deity (ostensibly), this might also be effective. there are oils, amulets, bags and other magical objects which may be worn for protection against demons. there is a Run Devil Run Oil, for example, often worn by Christians. "Fiery Wall of Protection" formula is also good against those who assault you, whether they are demons or human beings. a little Black Arts Oil mixed in with this would specifically protect against demons. formulae and items associated with King Solomon (like books, rings, etc.) are especially well-regarded on account of his reputation for being able to order spirits/djinn around so easily. amulets such as holy medals (like St. Michael holding Satan at bay) or St. Martha or St. Patrick (today's his day!) are sometimes sworn by for the especially reptilian antagonists. some suggest that crosses, silver, or holy cards are valuable to have on hand as talismans of protection. there is always the "God Protects" holy jackknife. many of these items can be found on the following web site: http://www.luckymojo.com/deityluck.html or at the main page http://www.luckymojo.com/luckymojocatalogue.html there are a number of books describing seals and other types of magical protective agents also to be found at: http://www.luckymojo.com/mojocatbooks.html most of these can be safely used by the believing Christian, as has been the case in hoodoo tradition for decades. >>> If you are not a Christian then you have no protection. at least you know of none, this much is clear. Gnomedplume@cavecom.net (Gnome d Plume): >98% of the real demonologists in the Western world are pagans, >Thelemites, or Hermetic Rosicrucians (more Egyptian Pagan than >xitian).... what distinguishes a "real" demonologist from a "fake" one? how did you determine that all of these were pagans? I'd tend to agree but am curious. >We deal with these entities on a regular basis and most of us >have few problems controlling them. some don't find what Christians (or others) call "demons" to be antagonistic at all based on our alliance and/or support for them. >If she is a Christian then certainly she should call on Jesus, or Jehovah or some archangel or something. even a guardian angel. some Christians might call on saints, or even hir OWN power as a potent Christian mage. I think St. Michael (archangel too!) is the usual defender of the magically-faithful. >but a good strong Banishing Pentagram Ritual (G.D. style) would >do equally well, if you don't mind being coercive and offensive. besides, you're unlikely to be able to do such a ritual if you can't move. >whether she's Christian or not.**** false. some Satanists would not use this method because it is contrary to the support we are providing to the demondim. blackman99 -- mailto:nagasiva@luckymojo.com ; http://www.luckymojo.com/nagasiva.html mailto:boboroshi@satanservice.org ; http://www.satanservice.org/ emailed replies may be posted; cc replies if response desired