Path: typhoon.sonic.net!news-out.cwix.com!newsfeed.cwix.com!howland.erols.net!netnews.com!feed1.news.rcn.net!rcn!korova.insync.net!solomon.io.com!nntp.giganews.com!nntp3.giganews.com!news4.giganews.com.POSTED!news.clear.net.nz!news.win.co.nz From: "Fuzzypeg" Newsgroups: alt.magick References: <392161A8.2B105C0@earthlink.net> <39217cf7.20093539@news.shutter.net> Subject: Re: Wiccan associations and lack of references Lines: 47 X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Organization: Web InterNet Ltd Message-ID: <958532786.479953@news.win.co.nz> Cache-Post-Path: news.win.co.nz!unknown@ip-210-55-15-94.ipn.orcon.net.nz X-Cache: nntpcache 2.4.0b1 (see http://www.nntpcache.org/) X-Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: news.win.co.nz NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 21:04:46 CDT X-Trace: sv2-tf41yhdkQo0YHNT+AsGKT7OrgA3elkFvCDhuLy+fGTPGZSLGqCMjEA3rpSxdHlWJd4vK7ldHXqkM86n!/XIqEFwuZL2wc4y+i1HrW1T1 X-Complaints-To: abuse@GigaNews.Com X-Abuse-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 14:02:03 +1200 Xref: typhoon.sonic.net alt.magick:192814 The most famous herbal is "Culpeper's Complete Herbal" (1653). This book lists hundreds of herbs, with descriptions, medicinal uses, some magical lore, and the planetary (and zodiacal) government for each herb. Nicholas Culpeper studied at Cambridge and became an apothecary, physician and astrologer in London. -- Fuzzypeg http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Lofts/2763 Lady Jvar wrote in message <39217cf7.20093539@news.shutter.net>... >>The general correspondence scheme used by most Wiccan folk is drawn from >>the Golden Dawn's system. The fact that many of them don't know that is >>rather sad. >> >>If you really want to know, get a copy of Crowley's "777" and study >>Golden Dawn history. You can work backward from their and eventually >>have a reasonable understanding of how most modern systems of >>correspondences evolved. > >I needed to research an article I was writing on herbs and their >correspondences. I got quickly frustrated that all routes ended at >Cunningham. I know *he* didn't make all the correspondences, so I had >to do some further digging to get past info gotten in the 1900 time >frame. > >The best reference I came up with was Agrippa's stuff, in particular >Three Books of Occult Philosophy or Magic. It's not easy to read, >hell, it was compiled 1533 with the english translation in the mid >1600's. Bu at least Cunningham had nothing to do with it. > >Then there's always John Baptist Porta's Natural Magick published in >1584. He writes "Whoever looks into the writings of the Ancients, >namely, Hermes, Orpheus, Zoroastres, Harpocration, and other such >like skillful men as have invented and registered the secrets of >this art, shall find that they gathered all from the likeness of >seeds, fruits, flowers, leaves and roots, as also of the stars, >metals, gems, and stones, that likeness, I say, which these things >have to the diseases and parts of a mans body, as also of other >living creatures. " > >Of course, it would be more impressive if any of those figures >(Hermes, Orpheus...) were real. Except for Zoroaster, who, to my >knowledge never wrote about herbs. > >Lady J