Path: shell.portal.com!svc.portal.com!sdd.hp.com!swrinde!cs.utexas.edu!geraldo.cc.utexas.edu!satan.ots.utexas.edu!litch From: R.Michael Litchfield Newsgroups: alt.magick,alt.pagan Subject: RE: LSD-25 and magick Date: 12 Dec 1995 00:28:34 GMT Organization: oed Lines: 46 Distribution: world Message-ID: <4aiibi$3f8@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> References: <05DEC95.23401880.0131@MUSICB.MARIST.EDU> <4acose$pjp@news.wco.com> <4af8lp$8r7@maureen.teleport.com> <4agh1d$gl0@puzzle.palace.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: satan.ots.utexas.edu X-Newsreader: Nuntius 2.0.3_PPC X-XXMessage-ID: X-XXDate: Mon, 11 Dec 1995 00:24:17 GMT Xref: shell.portal.com alt.magick:61156 alt.pagan:136708 [x-posted to alt.pagan because this is more an exposition on the religous aspect] N. asked me to write down some of my thoughts on the magical aspects of LSD and send them to her and v. so here it is; Its foremost agency in my experience is that one becomes like a child. An enhanced child possessed of most if not all of the desirable attributes of adulthood but still a child. One enters into a brave new world where everything is alight and alive. Our limits are unknown because we have yet to test them. Every smell, sight, sound, texture, and taste is new upon our soul. We re-enter this marvel of a toy we call our world fresh and filled with energy until it seems we may burst. If we are in truth gods and goddesses and the universe is our playground and textbook than experiencing the world as if it were new to us is a potent tool. It recapitulates the choice we make in entering into the cycle of life and death. It can reveal to us things which have become contemptible children of familiarity in their true blazing glory. Even better because we have more advanced faculties to appreciate them than we did when we were children. We become filled with the childhood energy to run and play and dance with delight for the sheer exultation of being. We remember the delightful pleasure of being that we become inured to in our day to day lives. If it is like coming to life again for the first time it is also like dying out of its assigned turn. We can visit briefly a world that does not bear the weight of the causality we have believed to exist. We put aside this story for a while and make up our own small tale. It allows us to escape from behind our masks of the roles we have found ourselves in and choose new ones if we so desire. A short period of experimental improvisational theater on the stage that is the world. We can step outside who we pretend to be and let ourselves be who we are for a while. The forces of history and plot are held at bay and while new avenues of venture may be explored. This Holy sacrament is a tool to celebrate the cycle of birth and death to which we have committed ourselves. It can help remind us of the unlimited nature of the universe, and as we are the universe, the unlimited nature of ourselves. Nothing is written except that which has been and it only effects us as much as we allow it to, our will is divine and paramount. -Michael Path: shell.portal.com!shell.portal.com!not-for-mail From: tyagi@houseofkaos.abyss.com (nagasiva) Newsgroups: alt.magick,alt.magick.tyagi,alt.pagan.magick,alt.drugs.psychedelics,rec.drugs.psychedelic Subject: RLitchfield: Re: LSD-25 and magick Date: 12 Dec 1995 18:19:21 -0800 Organization: Portal Communications (shell) Lines: 58 Sender: tyagi@shell.portal.com Message-ID: <4ald79$c0g@jobe.shell.portal.com> References: <05DEC95.23401880.0131@MUSICB.MARIST.EDU> <4acose$pjp@news.wco.com> <4af8lp$8r7@maureen.teleport.com> <4agh1d$gl0@puzzle.palace.net> <4aigf5$264@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> Reply-To: R.Michael Litchfield NNTP-Posting-Host: jobe.shell.portal.com Xref: shell.portal.com alt.magick:61171 alt.magick.tyagi:5348 alt.pagan.magick:38 alt.drugs.psychedelics:15909 rec.drugs.psychedelic:6422 [from alt.magick: R.Michael Litchfield ] >In article > (Lint) writes: > I was wondering if anyone out there has done any research on the >use of LSD and the enlightenment of magick and how the two might >be connected or how one could enhance the use of the other. >Lint I tend to be much more chaotic than ceremonial in my approach to magic and find that the psychoactives play an invaluable role for me. LSD tends to have two very different and distinct effects depending upon your dosage level. Lower dosages, up to about 250 micrograms (~2.5 hits), are termed psycholytic in the literature, a word coigned to described the mind opening powers of the drug. Higher dosages, (250 and up), are termed psychadelic, which was created to describe the mind manifesting nature of the drug. The two levels are distinctly different, a person having a psycholytic experience is going to be functioning in the more or less same reality with the people around them, though things will often take on a glamour and be percieved in new ways and in new relationships. A person having a psychedelic experience in not necessarily sharing the consensus reality, thier internal universe (or perhaps inter experience of the universe) is much more powerful and effective than some external "reality". The implications of these two states on magical practice is profound. During a psycholytic experience the universe is more or less the same place it was before you dropped, thus magical action occurs in a similar manner to the way it normally would. You are however aware of many more things, a blank wall is not blank but full of the sigils of the universe in constant shifting prose waiting for you to but understand what it is whispering to you. However you experience some severe limitations, you are EASILY distracted, your memory is fractured, your intuition will leap without your rational mind being able to follow, trying to move from thought to spoken word becomes an effort of immense proportions, and all in all your focus is fucked. A psychedelic experience occurs in a universe all its own. In this new world change doesn't occur according to will, it occurs according to whim, including unconscious whim. Magic during one of these experiences tends to be more about bringing your creation back to your waking reality, and without any of the possible horrors that grow in those regions. Fortunantly not much comes back accross during these experiences, except occaisionally the memories, but those memories can be potent indeed. To truely know what it feels like to call a dream thing from the nothing around you makes it much easier to accomplish something the next time you try it in the real world. Of course there is the vague lingering question as to whether the world you return to is the world you left. -Mcihael -- CC public responses to email (I may respond publically to any email I receive). READ alt.magick.tyagi TRY : http://www.hollyfeld.org/~tyagi/nagasiva.html ______________