Path: Supernews!supernews.com!news.gv.tsc.tdk.com!news.ssi1.com!uunet!in1.uu.net!206.154.70.8!news.webspan.net!newsfeeds.sol.net!europa.clark.net!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!newshub.csu.net!csulb.edu!info.ucla.edu!nnrp.info.ucla.edu!ts38-5.wla.ts.ucla.edu!wehmeyer From: wehmeyer@ucla.edu (Stephen C. Wehmeyer) Newsgroups: alt.magick,alt.pagan.magick,alt.lucky.w,alt.religion.orisha,alt.wiccan,alt.magick.tyagi,alt.magick.folk Subject: Re: African American lodge-oriented magic Date: Sun, 25 May 1997 16:13:15 Organization: UCLA Lines: 38 Message-ID: References: <336F6035.72A0@ix.netcom.com> <5li9t5$j5l@kudo20.kudonet.com> <199705162110.OAA25866@kudo20.kudonet.com> <337FC138.7BB3@luckymojo.com> <5lv8sh$27m@nntp4.u.washington.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: ts38-5.wla.ts.ucla.edu X-Newsreader: Trumpet for Windows [Version 1.0 Rev A] Xref: Supernews alt.magick:102544 alt.pagan.magick:4047 alt.lucky.w:1457 alt.religion.orisha:469 alt.magick.tyagi:12341 alt.magick.folk:710 In article <5lv8sh$27m@nntp4.u.washington.edu> brz@u.washington.edu (R Brzustowicz) writes: >From: brz@u.washington.edu (R Brzustowicz) >In connection with these remarks, I'd like to raise a question that has >circulated from time to time -- >It is clear that there have been mutual influences between African and >European magico-religious traditions -- and fraternal traditions as well. >Does anyone know of (and of sources for the history of) African-American >uses of lodge-style magic? To put it schematically, > Anglo-American UGL Freemasonry is to the Golden Dawn > as > Prince Hall Freemasonry is to _____________________ ? >There are (and have been) African-American occultists and magicians and so >on of all varieties -- I am particularly interested in knowing whether >there was ever an African-American magical lodge/high magic "movement" >during that period that saw the development of parallel institutions >(educational, fraternal, professional, etc) on both sides of the >black/white divide in US society. >R Brzustowicz (brz@u.washington.edu) Of course, anything by or about P.B. Randolph and the Hermetic Brotherhood of Luxor (mid 19th century -- Chicago[?]), is relevant to this discussion. In fact, a recently published encyclopedic work dealing with the history of the HBL seems to sew up most of the loose ends vis a vis the order's relationship to the modern American Spiritualist movement. Unfortunately... the title and authors are not at the moment on the tip of my tongue. I'll post full bibliographic data soon... Ache omo Osanyin, Stephen C. Wehmeyer, M.A. UCLA Folklore and Mythology Program