Path: Supernews69!supernews.com!www.nntp.primenet.com!nntp.primenet.com!cs.utexas.edu!data.ramona.vix.com!nnrp1.crl.com!not-for-mail From: lee@crl8.crl.com (Lee Thompson-Herbert) Newsgroups: alt.magick,alt.magick.tyagi,alt.pagan.magick,alt.lucky.w Subject: Re: Magick Words (was Re: mantras & words of power) Date: 30 Jun 1997 07:04:24 -0700 Organization: Ginsu Ninjas Lines: 25 Message-ID: <5p8ed8$1s9@crl8.crl.com> References: <33A1FC85.A9F@bigcats.com> <5o9ib9$1mp@kudo20.kudonet.com> <33A89A34.4B02@luckymojo.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: crl8.crl.com Xref: Supernews69 alt.magick:106391 alt.magick.tyagi:13298 alt.pagan.magick:5202 alt.lucky.w:1647 In article , George Leake wrote: >*now this is more like it. > >*one thing I've seen suggested is that there's quite a bit of incantation >in old literature, that tales could have a charming effect. With that login name, you _should_ know this part: Olaves (bards) had to master different categories of song. Among them were Suantrai, the Sleep Song. The bard didn't just move you with his music, his song was magical. I can't remember the proper names of the other song types right now. There are more suantrai surviving than the others. I've seen songs to keep your child safe from the faeries, songs that the faeries supposedly sang to call children to them, songs to make the listener sleep, songs to keep the house safe while the listener sleeps... In these cases, the words are not inherently magical. But the singing _is_ the spell. This is _incantation_ in the original sense of the cantor who sings the holy/powerful/magical words. -- Lee M.Thompson-Herbert KD6WUR lee@crl.com Member, Knights of Xenu (1995). Chaos Monger and Jill of All Trades. "There are some people who will argue whether the flames are blue or green, when the real question is that their arse is on fire."