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From: tyagi@houseofkaos.abyss.com (nocTifer)
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Subject: Prayer and Christian Magick
Date: 28 Feb 1998 19:48:12 -0800
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49980204 aa2 Hail Satan!  (sources restated per new forum rules)

peace be with you, my kin.

re where affirmative prayer stops and magick begins:
prayer, affirmative or negative, implores the divine to action on
the part of the petitioner.  magick enacts this action directly.
there is no necessary division between the two, depending entirely
on whether the petitioner is also the divine in some way.


re whether they merge somewhere or are the same:
they merge when the petitioner draws on divinity to effect an
action, checking (by whatever method) to be sure of approval
for the act from the divinity.  when 'Thy' will is done 
simultaneously to 'my' will, then Christian magick occurs.

however, these are NOT the same.  prayer can be indulged by
those who have no trek with either the divinity or with
prayer and/or petition.  they BECOME the same within those
who have a very special reliation (some would claim identity)
with the Christian (messianic) power.

peace also with you,

blessed beast!
nocTifer
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