Path: typhoon.sonic.net!feed.news.sonic.net!fs01-sjc1.usenetserver.com!news.webusenet.com!cox.net!cyclone1.gnilink.net!wn3feed!worldnet.att.net!bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net.POSTED!not-for-mail Reply-To: "Asiya" From: "Asiya" Newsgroups: alt.magick.tyagi,alt.magick,alt.pagan.magick,alt.paranormal.spells.hexes.magic,alt.lucky.w References: Subject: Re: Empowerment and Refashioning the Past (was A question...) Lines: 53 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-ID: Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2002 10:04:28 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 12.83.67.93 X-Complaints-To: abuse@worldnet.att.net X-Trace: bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net 1029924268 12.83.67.93 (Wed, 21 Aug 2002 10:04:28 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2002 10:04:28 GMT Organization: AT&T Worldnet Xref: typhoon.sonic.net alt.magick.tyagi:34320 alt.magick:314293 alt.pagan.magick:33876 alt.paranormal.spells.hexes.magic:34639 alt.lucky.w:12438 "nagasiva" wrote in message news:uho89.11426$Ik.245997@typhoon.sonic.net... > 50020820 VII > > look@my.sig ('shell seeker): > >+ ...I have read about magically charging objects and > >personal items. I was wondering if it works to try magically > >charging living flesh, or at least as much as charging anything > >does. In a way, the flesh is the self's closest personal item. > > effectively the same as empowerment (variety of traditions) > or purification. many claim it is effective, yes. > > >+ One unknown person online told me once that retroactive > >magick could work- ie; that if event X went terribly wrong > >in the past, resulting in a horde of hard-to-define problems > >needing help; then event X could be used as a catchall goal > >of magic, in order to fix things sort-of-like you'd changed > >X. > > And I do vaguely remember some writer who'd also said > >something like this many years ago. > > Is it true? I mean, is it possible? or at least as possible > >as any sort of magic would be ... > > So if event X were the goal of the magic, would it be a way > > to influence the conditions that resulted from it? > > the ability to refashion the past is described in some > cultures as the benefit of extreme mystical attainment > (e.g. some Buddhist), so it is not out of the question > as an objective or magical aim, no. > > Ebony (peace be upon him) used to speak of extending outside > of space-time and changing things using magic. I never saw > evidence of this. I'm inclined to believe that it may have > therapeutic affects if nothing else. if one could believe > that the past had been refashioned, one might cease obsessing > with the incident or energy with which one appeared to be > grappling. in some instances this kind of spell makes a great > deal of sense and reminds me of the 'Cut and Clear' spell about > which sri catyananda has occasionally spoken -- terminating > a relationship previously the focus of one's attentions. This reminds me of a ritual that is in 'Modern Magick'. A version of it is also in one of the Wiccan books I own though damned if I can remember which one right now. You create a sigil to represent "magickal power", visualize going back in time minimum ten years, visualize yourself from that time period, and project the sigil onto your younger self's forehead. One could easily adapt this for various purposes. Asiya