Path: typhoon.sonic.net!feed.news.sonic.net!newsfeed.media.kyoto-u.ac.jp!newsfeed.icl.net!newsfeed.fjserv.net!newsfeed.icl.net!newsfeed.fjserv.net!diablo.theplanet.net!news.theplanet.net!not-for-mail From: "Alex Sumner" Newsgroups: alt.magick Subject: Knowledge and Conversation of the Holy Guardian Angel Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2004 13:36:31 -0000 Organization: Hermetic Order of Sol Ascendans Lines: 24 Message-ID: References: <4022b14c.1872198@trialnews.peoplepc.com> <40273beb.6052796@trialnews.peoplepc.com> <40255696.12880574@trialnews.peoplepc.com> <4028d6d2.5301107@trialnews.peoplepc.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 62.137.9.176 X-Trace: newsg2.svr.pol.co.uk 1076419942 10346 62.137.9.176 (10 Feb 2004 13:32:22 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: 10 Feb 2004 13:32:22 GMT X-Complaints-To: abuse@theplanet.net X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Xref: typhoon.sonic.net alt.magick:366221 Gnome (and others who are interested in the subject), On a Yahoo group the other day we were having a discussion on what is "KCHGA", and what did Crowley mean when he used the term. Opinions were divided along the following lines: * KCHGA means communing with ones Higher Self in an abstract sort of way; * KCHGA is basically the same thing as the tasks the Golden Dawn prescribes for the 5=6 Adeptus Minor grade; hence it is appropriate for a GD-er, as well as Thelemites, to talk about aiming to achieve KCHGA; * KCHGA is neither of the above: instead it is _actual_ Knowledge and _actual_ Conversation of an _actual_ Angelic being, who is _not_ identical with ones Higher Self; KCHGA was not mentioned "as such" by the original GD, and KCHGA per se is not the aim of a GD magician. How do you view KCHGA? Is your view similar to any of these views, or is it different again? AS http://www.geocities.com/alex_sumner/