Path: typhoon.sonic.net!feed.news.sonic.net!newsfeed.media.kyoto-u.ac.jp!newsfeed.icl.net!newsfeed.fjserv.net!diablo.theplanet.net!news.theplanet.net!not-for-mail From: "Alex Sumner" Newsgroups: alt.magick Subject: Re: My Enochian 100 Words Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2004 14:39:20 +0100 Organization: Hermetic Order of Sol Ascendans Lines: 76 Message-ID: References: <410227C6.AD944E2F@luckymojo.com> <8d9826c7.0407241618.3cfeeb87@posting.google.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 217.134.41.3 X-Trace: news5.svr.pol.co.uk 1090938210 4092 217.134.41.3 (27 Jul 2004 14:23:30 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: 27 Jul 2004 14:23:30 GMT X-Complaints-To: abuse@theplanet.net X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Xref: typhoon.sonic.net alt.magick:380947 "Tom" wrote in message news:fiRMc.15571$Qu5.13295@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net... > > "Alex Sumner" wrote in message > news:ce03cu$2np$1@newsg2.svr.pol.co.uk... > > > > "Nihilist" wrote in message > > news:8d9826c7.0407241618.3cfeeb87@posting.google.com... > > > > > Do the Enochian magicians have any "heavenly secrets" to share with > > > us? > > > > Yes, though it depends on the individual. > > So, what heavenly secrets uncovered by Enochian magic do *you* have to > share? > I have plenty of stuff to share, though for modesty's sake I shall omit to say whether they are "heavenly" or not. > > > If I were to spend a decade studying Enochian magick, what would I be > > > able to DO that can't be DONE by simpler means? > > > > > Access a means of raising magical power more consistently and with less > > effort than other forms of magick. > > And what exactly does that mean? What is "magical power" and how is it > measured such that you can determine which way is best for generating it? > Ok, let me introduce two postulates. Firstly, that you are a practitioner of astral projection and the like. (After all you have recommended Ophiel's "Art and Practice of Astral Projection" on this very newsgroup in the past). Second postulate - you have attempted to perform magical rituals whilst astrally projecting. If so, then I expect that many times you will have experienced a great sense of energy and exhilaration in doing so. I base this on my own experiences in similar circumstances - and from the accounts of others (who post to this ng). It is this "sense of energy" which I refer to as "magical power". If you have also practised ritual magick in the physical, I daresay you may also have got a sense of this energy or "magical power" - perhaps not as pronounced as when astrally projecting, but nevertheless tangible: a frisson of energy, as opposed to a blast. Or maybe the sense of energy was of a comparable level to working exclusively in the astral. Speaking personally, I can vouch for at least three methods of generating that "magical power", that sense of energy: 1. The proper Vibration of (non-Enochian) words of power; 2. Meditation; 3. Pronouncing the appropriate Enochian calls in the Enochian language, whilst keeping in mind the literal translation and the supposed effect of the calls in question. Of these three, I find that the third method takes far less physical and/or mental effort than the first two. The effects ("magical power") is more consistent, compared to the other two methods, and quite often are independent of my expectations of the Enochian calls (i.e. I find myself continually surprised by just how powerful they can be). From what I have read of other people's experiences of Enochian, their findings appear to correlate with mine. It's all Subjective judgement - like Art - not something quantifiable in objective terms like Science. AS http://www.geocities.com/alex_sumner/