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From: Gnomedplume@cavecom.net (Gnome d' Plume)
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Subject: Re: Goetic questions
Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2000 00:24:56 GMT
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On Fri, 11 Feb 2000 18:27:04 -0500, Ada Byron <adabyron@hotmail.com>
wrote:

>I have what is probably a really elementary quetion for any of the
>Goetic practioners here (Poke, definitely, and anyone else who has
>done this stuff).
>
>I've done several evocations on my own, and feel pretty comfortable
>with the process. A friend of mine, also a magick practitioner, but
>not one who has done any goetic stuff, and I want to try to do one
>together. Keep in mind that this will not be using the sexual
>evocation model, and I don't use the mirror model, either. Neither of
>us are natural mediums, which is the other form of "team" evocation I
>have seen written about.
>
>What is the best way to go about this? Should both people be in one
>circle, their own circle, or some other permutation? I should point
>out that the evocation will only be for one of us (i.e. only one of us
>is going to be giving the spirit a task to do on our individual
>behalf).
>
>Are there any potential pitfalls? 
>
>ada
>
*****Ada:

Remember now, you asked me....First, I don't know how you are used to
receiving? You aren't clairvoyant, you don't use a mirror, so what do
you do? The reason why this is of some importance in traditional
evocation is that we (operator, receiver, server, et allia) stay
inside the circle, and the spirit manifests outside the circle in the
Triangle, which acts as a geometric/philosophical restraint, therefore
if you do this visioning internally (with eyes closed) as in scrying,
you are really not doing a "traditional" circle-triangle goetic
evocation. BTW this is one of the reasons why our facial
reflection/distortion method is so uniquely suitable for traditional
goetia. You "see" the spirit in the mirror outside the circle, in the
triangle. May I suggest that you hop over to alt.magick.goetia and
review the whole invocation-evocation procedure, then we'll try to
figure out how to somehow exteriorize your spirit, at least in a
subjective sense.*****

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