Path: typhoon.sonic.net!not-for-mail Message-ID: <3B5203E7.1462@luckymojo.com> From: catherine yronwode Organization: Lucky Mojo Curio Co. X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01-C-MACOS8 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.magick,alt.magick.tyagi Subject: Re: Question re The Vision and the Voice References: <20010713085648.09011.00000395@ng-ml1.aol.com> <%cE37.79525$WT.14917237@typhoon.austin.rr.com> <3B51D328.16B6@luckymojo.com> <3b51ebf3.15694069@trialnews.peoplepc.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 110 Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2001 20:50:09 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.204.136.59 X-Complaints-To: abuse@sonic.net X-Trace: typhoon.sonic.net 995230209 209.204.136.59 (Sun, 15 Jul 2001 13:50:09 PDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2001 13:50:09 PDT Xref: typhoon.sonic.net alt.magick:252925 alt.magick.tyagi:27592 Joseph B Wilson wrote: > > Gnomedplume@aol.com (Gnome d Plume) wrote: > > >Joseph B Wilson wrote: > > > >> wrote: > >> > >> > >>> > >>> The teacher -- a woman whose name i am still tryig to recall or > >>> have brought back to my mind by someone who may remember her -- > >>> was an associate of Israel Regardie and of Paul Foster Case. I > >>> believe she lived in Los Angeles. She was quite decisive on the > >>> point that Crowley had faked his crossing of the Abyss, and, if > >>> i recall correctly, she mentioned that "internal proofs" of his > >>> fraud could be found in his writings, although the Chorinzon > >>> episode was not specified by name as one of those "proofs." > >> > >> That wasn't "Sara Cunningham" by any odd chance was it? > > > > [...] actually I think cat is referring to > > Eleanor Person, who you may recall used to run the "House of > > Hermetics" in L.A. in the late 1960s. She had been (as I recall) > > a close associate of Ann Davies in the B.O.T.A. Pronaus group, > > and I remember that she knew Doc Regardie. > > Yep, I remember . You could be right about that being > Eleanor. At least now cat has a couple of names that might jog her > memory. Dear Sirs, Eleanor Person sounds far more "rght" than Sara Cunningham -- but neither name went "click" -- it's been too long, i fear. I am VERY curious about tracking this woman down, though -- so may i take a few more moments of your time to see if what i recall rings a bell with you: The Six Day School was set in motion in 1966 or 1967 by a man who was the road manager for the rock band Quicksilver Messenger Service. He had been severely injured in a car wreck and was in a wheel chair -- with scads of money from the insurance settlement. I don't recall his name either, sorry. He set up the funding for the program, which consisted of courses in all aspects of life, not just occultism. For instance, i taught a class in candle-making and one on how to sew simple clothes without the use of a pettern, by measuring oneself directly onto the cloth. There were wood-working classes and pottery classes as well. Some of the crafts-oriented classes took place in the nearby ex-lumber-camp of Lost, along the Skunk train line between Fort Bragg and Willits; the occultism classes took place at the hippie pottery shop on Lansing Street in Mendocino. The teacher was a woman older than me (i was 19 - she may have been 30 - 35) and taller than me (i am 5'3" -- she may have been 5'6" - 5'9"). She had darker skin than me -- she was either a darkly tanned Semitic or Mediterranean woman or, possibly, of mixed race. Her hair was dark. Her weight-to-height ratio was within the average-to-thin range and her posture was outstandingly upright and dignified. She wore very elegant slightly hippie-style clothing and bold, probably expensive jewelry. (Oh, you don't know this about me, i guess -- i am visually impaired and cannot see much of anything farther than a foot from my face -- in other words, this woman could have looked like Sigourney Weaver or Jackie Joyner-Kersee and it would all have been the same to me!) The Western Esoteric Tradition course she taught consisted in part of the complete range of Golden Dawn introductory Christian-kabbalah / tree of life ascription material, with reference to the Waite tarot and then to the BOTA tarot, which each of us purchased and coloured in for ourselves over the course of the weeks. Other material included a long lecture on the blow-up of the G.D. (how quaint that seems now, 100 years after the fact -- but a mere 65 years after it had happened, it seemed quite vital a topic for discussion), some basic tables of correspondences ala 777 or Agrippa, and a bunch of mimeographed hand-outs of Regardie's notes on Crowley and the G.D., most, if not all, of which later saw print in Regardie's various books. I am not sure if astrology chart-making was covered in these classes -- i think not, or at least not beyond the basics, but i was learning it then from a private teacher who also attended these classes, and i think i turned my chart-work in to him for review after her classes each week, which has gotten a bit mixed up in my mind with what she taught. Oh yes, one thing she DID teach about astrology was that the sigil for the planel Mars (arrow emerging at 45 degree angle from circle) is wrong -- that it should be a cross surmounting a circle (inverse of Venus sigil) and she proved this quite elegantly with a wonderfully useful and complexly described three-coloumn table of the planetary sigils broken down into their primary visual components [ . + and )], saying, with clever reference to the directionality of the conventional Mars-arrow, "there's no such *attitude* among the planets." And she taught that there would be a new planet discovered beyond Pluto, to be named Vulcan -- and its sigil would be a circle with half-circle atop it, floating above a cross surmounted by a half circle and that this palnetary sigil would symbolixe "conscious reincarnation from one lifetime to the next." So -- does this sound like Eleanor Person? And if so -- what became of her? Where is she now? Did she ever publish anything? cat yronwode Freemasonry for Women ------- http://www.luckymojo.com/comasonry.html Lucky Mojo Curio Co. http://www.luckymojo.com/luckymojocatalogue.html Send e-mail with your street address to catalogue@luckymojo.com and receive our free 32 page catalogue of hoodoo supplies and amulets