Path: typhoon.sonic.net!feed.news.sonic.net!HSNX.atgi.net!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!sn-xit-01!sn-post-02!sn-post-01!supernews.com!corp.supernews.com!not-for-mail From: Gnomedplume@aol.com (Gnome d Plume) Newsgroups: alt.magick Subject: Re: Beg. Enoch Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2002 22:10:24 GMT Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com Message-ID: <3ca4e406.14012244@trialnews.peoplepc.com> References: <4p5p8.232065$kb.13116595@news1.calgary.shaw.ca> X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.5/32.451 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Complaints-To: newsabuse@supernews.com Lines: 26 Xref: typhoon.sonic.net alt.magick:295434 On Fri, 29 Mar 2002 21:55:12 GMT, "Ashen Donashkin" wrote: >> I agree that it seems easier, but am curious why Goëts should be >> considered internal, and Enochian critters external. > >I hate this answer: > >Properly, one invokes Goëts and evokes an angel. > >Best, >Ashen Donashkin > ******That answer does apply--but I agree, it isn't satisfactory. Having some years experience with evoking and invoking both Goetic, Angelic and Enochian entities I've come to the personal conclusion that in most cases Enochian entities tend to be less "human" in derivation. They tend to be more Egyptian than Greek, more theiromorphic than anthropomorphic and more symbolic than personal. I have said: "There are no warm-fuzzies in Enochian. These entities don't love you, and sometimes they don't even like you." Thus they tend to be more alien and give the impression that they are "exterior" but we contact them in much the same manner as we do qabalistic angels, so they are subjective in the same general sense.***** Gnome d Plume