Path: typhoon.sonic.net!feed.news.sonic.net!newsfeed.media.kyoto-u.ac.jp!newsfeed.icl.net!newsfeed.fjserv.net!news-FFM2.ecrc.net!feed2.news.rcn.net!feed1.news.rcn.net!rcn!not-for-mail From: "Helen E. Hansen" Newsgroups: alt.magick Subject: Re: Abramelin question Date: Mon, 5 May 2003 00:59:18 -0400 Lines: 38 Message-ID: References: <99268733.0305041927.4ed87830@posting.google.com> X-Trace: UmFuZG9tSVag+y2glWYl0yX29kFwOrWaW2qU15g84zLKVL56qXJykGNGojnHjwIk X-Complaints-To: abuse@rcn.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 5 May 2003 04:59:20 GMT X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-Priority: 3 X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Xref: typhoon.sonic.net alt.magick:344699 "SwAmI" wrote in message news:b94pb7$spu$1@newsg1.svr.pol.co.uk... > > "whatnext" wrote in message > news:99268733.0305041927.4ed87830@posting.google.com... > > Since Abraham was the author of the Abramelin system I am assuming > > that the original of the book "Sacred Magic of Abramelin" was written > > in Hebrew. > > Does anybody have this original Hebrew. A google search states that > > the earliest translation was in German also that a book was written in > > 1995 that discusses the various translations of the Sacred Magic. I > > don't have that book so I am asking you all if you know where to find > > the original Hebrew text. > > > > thanks in advance > > As far as i am aware there isn't an original Hebrew text for this book. > Mathers translated it from a French copy he *claims* is a copy from the > original Hebrew. The French copy is at the "Biblioteque de L'Arsenal" in > Paris. Or was at the time Mathers wrote his copy. > > As you may tell from my post i am a bit skeptical this book ever had a > Hebrew original or even that the author was Jewish. There is internal evidence in both the German and French texts that it was written by someone who had only a superficial acquaintance with Judaism. It was certainly not written by a religious Jew. The original manuscript was written in the late 1700's or early 1800's in German. There are at least two manuscripts in German at the British Museum . Mathers translation was from the French, located at the library of the Arsenal ("Biblioteque de L'Arsenal") in Paris. There was a recent (1998 or so) publication of a redaction of these manuscripts in German. It is available from German Book dealers, Best Wishes, John M Hansen