Path: typhoon.sonic.net!not-for-mail Newsgroups: alt.magick,alt.magick.chaos,alt.magick.tyagi,talk.euthanasia Followup-To: alt.magick.tyagi,alt.magick,alt.magick.chaos Subject: Barren the Black Brothers of Evolution References: <3DEE605A.BCFB957E@pacbell.net> <9wbJ9.1769$9p.137238@newsread2.prod.itd.earthlink.net> <3DF59F5E.7741C242@pac <_mnJ9.542$eQ3.78225@newsread1.prod.itd.earthlink.net> <3DF6C468.4030802@xith.net> From: 333 Reply-To: spam@luckymojo.com User-Agent: nn/6.6.0 Lines: 53 Message-ID: Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 20:00:40 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 208.201.242.18 X-Complaints-To: abuse@sonic.net X-Trace: typhoon.sonic.net 1039636840 208.201.242.18 (Wed, 11 Dec 2002 12:00:40 PST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 12:00:40 PST Xref: typhoon.sonic.net alt.magick:328734 alt.magick.chaos:41364 alt.magick.tyagi:35280 talk.euthanasia:16070 50021211 VII uncited: >>>> it's interesting to me that some animals >>>> decided to stay _that_ animal, did they decide? or was it decided for them by environmental circumstances? >>>> that they haven't evolved to something >>>> more complex...like why don't we have >>>> birds with the intelligence of humans, >>>> or whatever Eleven : >Since I only just came in on this thread I don't know if anyone else has >already pointed this out, but evolution is about adaptation, not >complexity. precisely. >They have the forms they do because they're the most efficient >forms for their environment. they're like a flower blossoming off of a particular plant. they're particular to that circumstance, optimizers of some competitive local advantage. this says nothing about their universal value or advantage. >One could say that the "black brothers" of the animal world, >the ones that refused to evolve, since it isn't a conscious decision, it can't be a refusal. >are the species that went extinct. if evolution in animals is being compared to a Rosicrucian grading schema and the Black Brothers of Crowley's description are being identified, then they are animals who never reproduce. we are black by virtue of our genetic termination. :> the Babe of the Abyss is the fiction. everyone's a Black Brother because there is no post-mortem experience and we all go to the same wonderful charnal grounds. genetics doesn't produce immortality in the sense of endless experience. neither does magic, though it may attempt to prolong some aspect of human experience (through mysticism) and be made valuable thereby. only social and material duration are rational targets in any long-term venture. all other courses are social or personal enslavements, despoiling your attention and experience. haven't Black Brothers been turned into a cult yet? 333