Path: typhoon.sonic.net!feed.news.sonic.net!news-out.nuthinbutnews.com!propagator-sterling!news-in.nuthinbutnews.com!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!postnews1.google.com!not-for-mail From: paulhume@lan2wan.com (Paul Hume) Newsgroups: alt.magick.serious,alt.magick.tyagi,alt.magick Subject: Re: BRPs Date: 2 Jun 2002 07:24:06 -0700 Organization: http://groups.google.com/ Lines: 37 Message-ID: References: <3876d067.0205141119.49231a68@posting.google.com> <__hE8.74302$xS2.6134336@news1.calgary.shaw.ca> NNTP-Posting-Host: 67.242.141.83 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1023027846 10712 127.0.0.1 (2 Jun 2002 14:24:07 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 2 Jun 2002 14:24:07 GMT Xref: typhoon.sonic.net alt.magick.serious:21686 alt.magick.tyagi:32781 alt.magick:303702 > >Both, when I work "heavily." To use a shaky analogy, banishing Lesser > >Pentagram is cleaning the room, Greater or Supreme Pentagram is > >rendering it aseptic. > > > >Or on the invoking side, Lesser Pentagram is laying out the paints, > >Greater/Supreme is mixing specific colors on the palette. > > Ta. So do you mean the Lesser always goes hand in hand with the > performing of the Greater? > > I've played around with both before, but haven't applied them very > ceremonially much. > > I could just experiment with them and see for myself. But for now i > have many other ceremonial components to consider, so i want to just > first find and establish some working rudimentary groundwork without > having to go over too many finer details. The rule of thumb for me (which I think is pretty much plain vanilla) has been: - you always open and close with the Lesser Banishing Pentagram. - If you invoke by Greater or Supreme in the course of a working, then banish by the same "level" as you wrap it up. Some exceptions in practice: if I open by Watchtowers, I find that closing with Lesser Hexagram and Pentagram is sufficient to clean up. These are such flexible and powerful tools each of us has to figure out the best uses for them. I found that the examples of Z2 rituals (and writing a couple of my own) were the biggest help but I like precise high liturgy ritual, rich in the rolling turn of phrase, so it matches my personal aesthetic (I've always enjoyed doing Shakespeare or neoclassical stuff like Lion In Winter too, so at least its consistent (g)). Paul