Path: typhoon.sonic.net!feed.news.sonic.net!sjc70.webusenet.com!news.webusenet.com!sn-xit-02!sn-xit-06!sn-xit-09!supernews.com!postnews1.google.com!not-for-mail From: bloodofenoch@goddamnfruit.com ({ Secret Chief }) Newsgroups: alt.magick Subject: Re: Eastern LBRP Date: 1 Jun 2003 21:10:36 -0700 Organization: http://groups.google.com/ Lines: 62 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: 151.196.243.130 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1054527037 15355 127.0.0.1 (2 Jun 2003 04:10:37 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 2 Jun 2003 04:10:37 GMT Xref: typhoon.sonic.net alt.magick:347649 "SwAmI" wrote in message news:... > I am currently asking these questions on this very Forum. Really? I thought you were asking whether there was a Hinduized form of the LBRP out there, not whether it was a good idea. But since you're on the right track now, I'll do my best to answer. > Thanks for > pointing out the Obvious, though. My specialty. > "{ Secret Chief }" wrote in message > news:a3076ef3.0305311209.284b8a4@posting.google.com... > > "SwAmI" wrote in message > news:... > > * Do the Hindu gods fit into the four-directions/four-elements model? Short answer: no. Neither do Greek gods, Norse gods, Boddhisattvas, Daoist immortals, or any of the other divinities. Gods are essentially poetic things; the four-elements/four-directions schema is an essentially allegorizing mechanistic view of the world. In poetry, you have a lot of ambiguity, surplus meaning and redundancy floating around - that's what makes it complex and interesting - that's what makes it poetry. But allegory strives towards economy - that's what makes it clear and clever. The two do not naturally fit together. To make them fit, you have to force them; you have to make poetry to become and debase what makes it itself. > > * Do their names function in the same talismanic way as Kabbalistic > > god-names? They do function in a talismanic way, but not in the same talismanic way. Hebrew god-names one fears to pronounce at all; when they are spoken finally, it is an earth-shattering occurence. Hindu god names, on the other hand, are invoked by ceaseless repetition: "Hare Krishna Krishna Krishna Hare Rama Rama Rama" etc. > > * Is their relationship with their worshippers at all similar to the > > relationship between magician and Deity presupposed in the LBRP? I'm not qualified to answer definitively, but I'd say no. > > * Does Hinduism have the same attitude towards "hostile" or "blind > > forces" as the one presupposed in the LBRP? Again, not qualified to answer definitively, but I'd guess not in general. > > * Etc. Another question is: which Hinduism? It's a *huge* and very very old religion, with a lot of different and often incompatible flavors.