Path: Supernews70!Supernews73!supernews.com!howland.erols.net!newspeer.monmouth.com!newsgate.cistron.nl!het.net!bullseye.news.demon.net!demon!news.demon.co.uk!demon!comics.demon.co.uk!jon From: Jon Browne Newsgroups: alt.magick Subject: Re: A.'.A.'. CIRCULAR O Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 13:30:09 +0100 Organization: They Walk Among Us Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: comics.demon.co.uk X-NNTP-Posting-Host: comics.demon.co.uk:158.152.138.121 X-Trace: news.demon.co.uk 904221321 nnrp-03:7596 NO-IDENT comics.demon.co.uk:158.152.138.121 X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Newsreader: Turnpike (32) Version 3.05 Lines: 33 Xref: Supernews70 alt.magick:162200 In article , Clay Holden writes >Yeah, but did Wordsworth write the rest of the lyrics to "Assault and >Battery"? If so, I need to spend much more time studying my English >poets... Shoulda been (Brock/Wordsworth) on the label, then :) > >And just as an idle question, if there were no Michael Moorcock and >Hawkwind, would it be necessary for Chaos magicians to invent them ;-) HW, perhaps not, but Mike maintains the 8-arrowed symbol of Chaos was entirely his invention. It was first described on Gaynor The Damned's shield in an Elric story in '62 or '63. He's not bothered by it's proliferation, but finds it amusing it has been taken as an archetype. Is there any record of this symbol prior to say 1960, would you know? > >Anyway, would it be a silly assumption on my part that Hawkwind have been >a major formative influence on an awful lot of students and practitioners >of Magick (and not just in England)? Well, they certainly did me, absolutely. My suspisions were largely confirmed when I saw Nik Turner doing what looked very like the LBRP onstage at Stonehenge in 1984. I met Lemmy a couple of times and I get the distinct impression he knows what's up too. I still follow them pretty closely, and there is the same extended family thing in the UK that the Grateful Dead had over in the US. I never met a HW fan I didn't like. There are only one or two "interested parties" on the Hawkwind listserv, though. When I said I thought there was more to the name than Bignose Nik farting, I was (gently) ribbed for being a conspiracy theorist. -- Jon