Path: typhoon.sonic.net!feed.news.sonic.net!news-out.nuthinbutnews.com!propagator2-austin!propagator!feed2.newsfeeds.com!newsfeeds.com!news-in-austin.nuthinbutnews.com!news.rwth-aachen.de!fu-berlin.de!bolzen.all.de!not-for-mail From: "JimBob" Newsgroups: alt.magick.chaos Subject: Re: Chaos Theory Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2001 18:50:05 -0800 Organization: All Lines: 42 Message-ID: <9vbicp$bfq$1@bolzen.all.de> References: <9v8rfk$atf$1@bolzen.all.de> <3C180CD5.1413A03C@pacbell.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: ts2-110.thomcs.net X-Trace: bolzen.all.de 1008291034 11770 63.105.231.110 (14 Dec 2001 00:50:34 GMT) X-Complaints-To: news@bolzen.all.de NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2001 00:50:34 +0000 (UTC) X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Xref: typhoon.sonic.net alt.magick.chaos:38834 By chaos theory I refer to the one that encompasses the Butterfly Effect. (This idea originated from the first fractal ever produced which analyzed seemingly chaotic weather patterns and resembled a butterfly in shape. It is said that a butterfly in the Amazon may, by flapping its wings, cause a hurricane somewhere else by starting a chain reaction of forces that becomes the "straw that broke the camel's back".) I am a beginner in Chaos Magick and am not even sure what merit I give it. However, I read that Chaos Magick is based, at least loosely, on chaos theory, and one should at least learn the fundamentals of the latter to better understand the former. From what I get out of this, Chaos Magick works much like the Butterfly Effect; one's subconscious puts the slightest subliminal actions into one's own in order to provoke a chain reaction. But to get a better understanding of chaos theory's role in Chaos Magick, I am putting the question to some more experienced magicians. Joseph wrote in message news:3C180CD5.1413A03C@pacbell.net... > JimBob wrote: > > > > Here's something to talk about: > > > > How do you think the mathematical Chaos Theory relates to Chaos Magick? > > perhaps you would define your terms so no time will be wasted in debating what > "chaos" may or may not be, mathmatical, magical or illusionary. > > some people are affected enough to believe, and claim to know, an order of > perfection only unseen by those who so glibly use the term "chaos" either > mathmaticaly or magicaly. > > there is no chaos only perfection. just something else to think if not talk about > > joseph, highly influenced in the above statements by swami pratayagatamananda' > translation of the japa sutra. > > OM