Path: typhoon.sonic.net!feed.news.sonic.net!sjc70.webusenet.com!news.webusenet.com!wn11feed!worldnet.att.net!204.127.198.204!attbi_feed4!attbi.com!rwcrnsc53.POSTED!not-for-mail Message-ID: <3E125308.72D4262C@slip.net> From: "Fr. A.o.C." Organization: Temple of the Quintupal Triplicity X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 (Macintosh; U; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.magick.tyagi,alt.magick.chaos Subject: Re: Question concerning Chaos Magic References: <26UP9.57723$Ik.1905470@typhoon.sonic.net> <3E102139.5985E1B6@slip.net> <3E10FA3D.D7E1CE9D@slip.net> <1L7Q9.1486$Zo.15772@dfw-read.news.verio.net> <3DDA949B.CA1B57BA@cox.net> <2YoQ9.1529$Zo.16118@dfw-read.news.verio.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 19 NNTP-Posting-Host: 12.233.48.58 X-Complaints-To: abuse@attbi.com X-Trace: rwcrnsc53 1041388306 12.233.48.58 (Wed, 01 Jan 2003 02:31:46 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 01 Jan 2003 02:31:46 GMT Date: Wed, 01 Jan 2003 02:31:46 GMT Xref: typhoon.sonic.net alt.magick.tyagi:35576 alt.magick.chaos:41423 Q: Were you aware that the statement "Nothing is true, all is permitted" has been attributed, I think properly, to Hassan Ibn Sabbah, the "Old Man of the Mountains" and notorious head of the Hashshashin (Order of Assassins)? A: Yes, it certainly has been attributed to him, but with an understandably wide margin of possible historical error, and the context can only be guessed at. I like the statement very much; it has applications on many levels, but one should never forget that the consequences can be ghastly. Q: To some, if not all quantum theories, isn't it literally true that "Nothing is true, all is permitted" (merely substituting the word "real" for "true")? A: According to the Copenhagen Interpretation of quantum physics, to which I partly subscribe, I think it would be fair to say, "There is no being, all is doing, and even that is a matter of probability." (Interview with Peter J. Carroll)