Path: typhoon.sonic.net!not-for-mail From: nagasiva@luckymojo.com (loveseat phalmamachis) Newsgroups: alt.magick.tyagi,alt.magick.chaos,alt.magick,alt.magick.tantra Subject: Chaos Magick (tm) and kaOs MAjiq (was Magical Record of ...) Followup-To: alt.magick.tyagi,alt.magick.chaos,alt.magick Organization: Sonoma Interconnect,Santa Rosa,CA(us),http://www.sonic.net Lines: 130 Sender: yronwode@sonic.net Message-ID: <8ihprb$ocg@bolt.sonic.net> References: <8i73dj$9c4@bolt.sonic.net> <20000614091219.26088.00000293@ng-co1.aol.com> Reply-To: spam@luckymojo.com X-Newsreader: NN version 6.5.4 (NOV) Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2000 06:22:14 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 208.201.224.36 X-Complaints-To: abuse@sonic.net X-Trace: typhoon.sonic.net 961309334 208.201.224.36 (Sat, 17 Jun 2000 23:22:14 PDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2000 23:22:14 PDT Xref: typhoon.sonic.net alt.magick.tyagi:23734 alt.magick.chaos:26225 alt.magick:198446 alt.magick.tantra:16176 sienna555@aol.com (Sienna555): >>>Yes, this is the basic parameters for Chaos Magick. the ugly one: >>tm sienna555@aol.com (Sienna555): >tm? trayd mark. "Chaos Magick" should have a tm now that it has becum formulizd. >>>Unfortunately, they aren't the whole picture. As a Chaos Mage, >>>one still has to operate under some sort of paradigm while not >>>in ritual. >> >>or else? > >They cannot breathe, eat, sleep, or shit. suspend theez for the durayshun of the right. getit out of yoor sistem beforhand >>>Because of this, many chaos mages don't take their beleif system >>>seriously, or take it too seriously, or can't handle instant need >>>for magickal energy, cuz they're too busy trying to adopt someone >>>else's paradigm just to work the magick. >> >>beleefs are for nurdz. mayk-beeleef is majik > >Make beleive is still another paradigm. no paradime at all. suspenshun of DISbeleef, reside in trance not an intellekshuwul affare >>>One cannot go about without a paradigm of one's own in the world. >> >>or else? > >One will be created for you. By your own mind, In some fashion. onlee if wun is striktlee dwelleng in wunz hed. go swimming! wahch "Kung Fu" teevee sereez episoadz >>>For example, if you believe in Karma, then you will act accordingly >>>every time you make a decision, not just when you are in ritual. >> >>bullsheet. suspend beeleef all the tym. liv in thuh now > >Suspending belief is still a paradigm. yur buchereng the langwidge az badlee az I'm buchereng mi speleng. a paradime is a nolej sistum. disintugreat all tendenseez tward sistumizayshun and yoov transended oll reezemblunces ov 'paradimes' >>>Chaos magick is an incomplete system as of this time, because it only >>>applies when you are in ritual. >> >>that iznt kaos majik, that's Chaos Magick tm. > >And the difference is??? Chaos Magick (tm) has rules, consistencies, standards. one can be sure, like reading this sentence, that everything is O.K. (oll korrect!) as long as all these standards are obeyed. Step outside the line once too much and everyone might go BERZERK! Tradition from the glorious Sargeant Spare and Captain Carroll should not be countermanded. "It" is a monolith. It 'develops' like a tiny newborn creature, based on the fomentings of the culture which manifests it, cherishes it, and perfects its standards. kaos majik is bayst on persunul prefrenses. it cums alaiv with perfekt unpreediktubilitee an' thuh CLASHING of culchur! one spel mite inclood kunvenshunul methudz and unuthur mite bee kumpleetlee owt ov this wurld! beeeng induvidgoowullee-bayst, it canot bee kunstraynd tu sillee roolz and truhdishun. far better to abandun yur preekunsepshuns (yoor nolej!) and mayk it up as yoo go than to try to deefign and mayk yooniversul yoor majix kaotik. >>>What will Chaos Magick do for you in traffic? >> >>as yushuwul, it deepenz on your power >> >>>Can you "adopt a belief system" in the blink of an eye? >> >>not nessissaree. too outrayjuss an objektiv. juss mayk-beleev > >Again, make beleive is yet another paradigm. pretend that 'paradimes' arnt impotunt. yooz a bunch ov them >Another beleif system that is adopted. inkunsistunsee, inkumpatibilitee ov kunsepshuns mayks thuh klaym ov a "beleef sistem" impossibul. >>>Most people just hang onto one >>>for daily life, which is not really being a Chaos Mage, is it? >> >>deefining Chaos Mage, yu constayn it beeyeng Ceremoneeyul Magick tm >Due to the TOPY speak of this sentance I hav nevur been a member of thee tempul ov sidekick yuth and hav alwayz enjoyd freedum ov speleng, espeshullee dureng rite it is not "TOPY speak" eksept to thoze wut ar kundishund to beleev it so >I cannot understand it. the badlee spelt werd is "constrayn", sorree. you constrayn 'Chaos Mage' intoo Saramoneeyul Magick (tm) by deefining it. thuh ishu is kaos, wich manee want to bee prediktabul. I say it iznt. predictability enhances slumber. the perfectly spelled and grammatically adept expression lulls you into comfortable certainty. without no-ing wen thuh rug is going to be pulld out from under your feet, consciousness raises and so does anger at having to work harder to receive data. >Can you please put it in plain English for the sake of >the conversation? "constayn" makes no sense..... indeed -- mailto:nagasiva@luckymojo.com ; http://www.luckymojo.com/nagasiva.html mailto:boboroshi@satanservice.org ; http://www.satanservice.org/ emailed replies may be posted; cc replies if response desired