Path: typhoon.sonic.net!not-for-mail Message-ID: <3D3E007B.3B3D@luckymojo.com> From: catherine yronwode Reply-To: cat@luckymojo.com Organization: Lucky Mojo Curio Co. X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01-C-MACOS8 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.traditional.witchcraft,alt.magick.tyagi Subject: Re: Traditional Practicers? References: <##cNzteMCHA.1396@cpimsnntpa03> <3D3CBD9C.4030503@vygg.stonehand.net> <6Y9%8.18435$Qn5.645213@twister.southeast.rr.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 42 Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2002 01:12:37 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.204.150.196 X-Complaints-To: abuse@sonic.net X-Trace: typhoon.sonic.net 1027473157 209.204.150.196 (Tue, 23 Jul 2002 18:12:37 PDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2002 18:12:37 PDT Xref: typhoon.sonic.net alt.traditional.witchcraft:122644 alt.magick.tyagi:33681 Aetyr wrote: > > Hello solarmoon. > This group was created to discuss traditional witchcraft > specifically in contrast to Wicca, and its derivatives. I would > assume that it also contrasts to ceremonial magic, the OTO, > Theosophy, etc. etc. > All of these intersect at many points so its tough to make great > distinctions. > It was founded by Raven Blackbane in 1998. > From the beginning it has attracted people practicing European > based traditional witchcraft, and that was probably her intent > since alt witchcraft was already created, and that group > attracted a wide variety of magic users. > As for Alt Magick...ask Parse/Ren. He has been a poster there > for many years. > Pip I practice in the African-American and European traditions of folk magic, witchcraft, brujeria, hoodoo, powwow magic, conjure, hexenkraft, stregeria, et al, without respect to coven membership or a specific religious orientation. For what it's worth, i do not consider the word "traditional" or "tradition" to refer to initiatic lineages in the least, not do i think the term "traditional witchcraft" refers to any religion. . In the usage i see on the net and locally, a "tradition" or "path" is a generally respectful term meaning "a coherent system of magic / religion / mysticism / spirituality" -- while "traditional" generally means "archaic" or "not New Age" or "more 'paleo' than 'neo' Pagan." Also, i particiate in alt.magick regularly, and i would like to note that although it is chartered for the "scholarly discussion of magic" without respect to lineage or style, most of the particiants there work in Hermetic, Ceremonial, and mystical paths, with occasional nods of friendship to folk magic and traditional witchcraft of various ethnic and cultural forms. cat yronwode Hoodoo in Theory and Practice -- http://www.luckymojo.com/hoodoo.html